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ABRAMS VS 56x IRAQ TANKS + BMP-1s – ACCURATE 73 EASTING BATTLE SIMULATION – WAR THUNDER
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The iraqis soon ate dinner that night with a noticeable lack of onions
I prefer videos without the chaos voice chat, but these are all wonderfully done!
The thing you left out was the Abram’s having heavy battle DU armor plates but that’s not in game and you fail to let the m1a1’s able to shoot them at 2 miles away because in the battle that’s what the Abram’s did and you should of made it so the T-72 were not able to use laser range finders since they didn’t have them back then heard stories about how the Abrams were so far away that T-72 just started exploding because the t72 were not in range to fire at them
Don’t forget that the iraq army didn’t have access to the best ammo for their tanks
@Pointless less I know this some t72 were found to be firing training rounds at Abrams I know the entire story of the wars with the Abrams but a recent accident at a training firing ground a Abrams hit another Abrams in the side with the crew still in it somehow a Abrams hit another Abrams in the side with a training round and it didn’t get into the side of the Abrams but it did dent the side of the Abrams because the Abrams had only steel for armor during the training drill but the round never got in with it being just steel armor the loader was the only one hurt but not badly hurt hurt because the paint on the wall hit him at a high speed making the paint basically razor blades he got cut up but was very good in the situation that happen make note the training round Hit the tank in steel armor only and didnt get in and it got hit in the weakest side part of the Abrams and only dented the hull that should tell you how well the Abrams is and the side of the Abrams is what like 130mm thick on the side behind the skirts
The Iraq T-72 are something completley different than what for example Russia got.
The Iraq ones got an effective firing range of below 2km.
Russian ones got 5-8km (depending on ammunition used).
Range is KING since ages and even more today.
Iraqis not Iranians
he was saying ‘iraqians’. his grammar is fucked up during this whole video, it feels like hes text to speech.
It should be noted the iraqis were using export models of the t72s. They had no IR, hand cranked turrets, no advanced fire systems, and worse armor.
I believe that it was a tactical mistake for the Abrams to get much closer. With their optics advantages, tough frontal armor against the older Soviet tanks, and ability to kill them from nearly any angle, they would’ve been better off keeping the range advantage and whittling down the Iraqi numbers until they were low enough to close in on.
Really, their biggest threat in that first round were the BMPs firing ATGMs.
Is particle density on for everyone? It would make it much more realistic with sand dusts limiting visibility for everone, well for the Iraqis without thermals, too bad.
Why don’t add M60 tank
ok give one side cover to retreat & reload and give the other none i wonder who’ll win…
Yo that’s me 😅
The desert was flat… like a solid white pool table. You could see, using just night vision goggles, about 20 KM at night during a decent moon. Also, no grass growing. You didn’t have any type of grass until the “green desert” months of March, and even then, it never got more than about an inch or so high after the rains in March.
War Thunder ground players 🤪
Not surprising that the iraqis did better here, since war thunder overinflates the performance of russian vehicles in game and nerfs nato ones
The abrams shouldve kept driving forwards instead of constantly taking cover frfr to make it more realistic
I played desert storm 1 and 2 on ps2 the best games
You should have had a 5 minute delay from when the Iraqis could start firing back. Many of their vehicles weren’t even manned when the M1s showed up and started firing.
Why is he calling them Iranian? Did i miss something? They were iraqis.
I messed up saying the wrong one at the beginning
@Thunder with Muffin oh I thought it might have been part of the scenario you set up.
Gaijin really needs to fix those shaky ass replays
I agree, I tried editing as much as I could to remove all the shaking I could
WT are always inaccurate… Wish DCS has tank battle.
2:46 Iranian forces that’s about it and how far i woul’d go in to your video
Yeah I messed up on that part
this is what happens when the severaley lower iq third world lower forms of life try to fight the much smarter and better west, we are the real humans not them
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“Iranian forces”
The tactics by the abram drivers sucked. If ur main gun goes down you don’t run out to distract the enemy haha
Warthunder isn’t a good reenactment because of the balancing they do. In war, nothing is balanced. The highly trained and well equipped Americans absolutely decimated the Iraqi brigades, with only one Bradley lost to friendly fire.
Zero vehicle lost🐸?
Maybe make more cinematic shots like from above diffrient perspectiv
There’s a weather mod floating around, maybe you tried and it wasn’t on the latest version of the game, but if not, you totally should have used it, you could have gotten a sandstorm, much worse visibility, much more advantage to the US vehicles with thermals.
Interesting that in Warthunder the Bradleys are a hinderance while in real life they killed more tanks than Abrams did.
The one thing missing is the fact that there was a huge dust storm which gave the Americans a huge tactical advantage with inferred sights
The closest thing war thunder had to simulate this was most/fog to help reduce visibility
Problem is that warthunder in the code puts a bias on Russian based tanks armor.
When you said it’s amazing not a single abrams was lost. They had worse weather so the Russian tanks couldn’t see well, abrams irl is stronger than in game and Russian armor is weaker irl than in game.
of course the man in the A-10 is a fellow scots man
Wow an A-10 actually helping the team you don’t see that very often
The problem with this is that the Iraqi tanks didn’t come with built in Russian Bias
2:26 Bro Iran was not in the war at that time I think you miss spelled the Iraqi as Iranian, Oh sorry it was my mistake, you are dumb American, you are not supposed to know geography and the names of countries
Abrams need to travel as a wolfpack and shoot and move. Thats why we have those engines. Use them.
AMERICA! YEAH!
2:27
iranian targets?? thought they was iraqi? hmm
When he says Iranian he means Iraqi
Cool to see how close to the original outcome the first round was. I guess wt is semi accurate 🤣
Why do you have an arma 3 thumbnail
War thunders Abrams had to be nerfed because it was overpowered putting the Abrams with its actual capabilities in the game.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure the real abrams had tbe depleted uranium armor whereas warthunder doesn’t because it’s classified
You can’t remake a historical battle using warthunder, since the Abrams tanks in this game are gaijin fantasy tanks with little to no real armor.
The thing about tank battles… You just don’t reverse your tank after a round has been fired.
Usually you do that hulldown
Did you simulate Iraqi tankers shitting themselves, putting on trainers, and running away?
it was way more one sided in the actual battle because the iraqi vehicles didnt have powered traverse and had to hand crank everything, on top of being export models with less than adequate armor they were also not using modern ammunition. the battle was over before it began
*Iraqi not Iranian
@ThunderwithMuffin – Try doing this again using the game Gunner, Heat:
https://youtu.be/u64BB8_c3dE
All this shows once again is Gaijins pathetic Russian bias coping.
The thing is fcs isn’t really modeled into the game. Fire control is half of the firepower equation. That’s what gives usually western tanks a huge advantage over t72 variants
There’s a few distinct differences that War Thunder could not portray. For instance, the tank guard regiments were a lot of old Soviet hold-overs for training regiments, and were loaded with a substantial amount of training ammo. There were indications that some rounds simply pancaked against Abrams armor.
Another note is that 73 Easting was so hectic that the only lossage was friendly fire due to the inclement settings. Courage Under Fire (1996) is a good movie that depicts some of the struggles tankers had to deal with.