Source: Devient Kage
Very cool changes!
-News Article: https://aw.my.com/gb/news/general/balance-20-additional-vehicle-changes
Game balance > everything else
the cal of the gun is just window dressing, end of the day the rebalance means that even if the 152 had remained it it wouldn’t be the big stick it is now anyway
I actually liked the 140 mm gun on my LeoA7. However, I’m having high hopes for the 130 mm.
yo dev i am having a hard time deciding if to wipe my progress or not so i came to ask in which cases would you do it and in which ones you wouldn’t ?
look at that ping!!
Finally, my Merkava might be good!
thay destroy game with meny changes, balanc 2,0 will finish game. players will play 20-30 days after that, amen! plp go back to wot
cent 155 is back my life is complete
No 152 mm gun on Armata=No Armata in my garage. I guess I’ll switch to the LEO2A7 (130?) with the reset option. I’m gonna enjoy it while I can ;)
I’m glad they’re doing away with the 140s on the current NATO tier 10s. However I would like to see them return in the their historically accurate forms of the Leo 2 140 and CATTB. I’m not sure if there was a project for the Chally 2 with a 140, but I know there was one for a Chally 2 with the Rheinmetall 120mm L/55, so hopefully we see that in the game.
i’m glad that fucking 152mm OP cannon is out of the way. the same goes for the OP russian glass cannon tanks….doing 1000 damage with ATGM was totally broke.
Warning: wall-o’-text incoming!
140mm DID exist in experimental form; the Swiss, Germans and Americans all test-fired their own version but eventually dropped the upgrade idea due to physical limitations and the fact that, back in 1991 when the Iron Curtain fell, the 120mm was still good enough for the job, and the rumored 152mm Soviet tanks had not made their appearance (*yet*, as the Russians were working on Object 477A Molot until 1992/3 and Object 195 until 2010, both of which were designed to house a 152mm gun). The ATACS gun (the one found on the XM1A3) was still developed and tested after the Cold War, even as recently as 2002 (it was eventually linked to the electrothermal/chemic gun research, along with the XM360) as some TARDEC files attest to, though to be fair it was most likely in its 120mm configuration rather than the 140mm.
In other news, the XM1A3->M1A1 CATTB conversion is back on the table; Silentstalker has suggested (in the dedicated forum thread) this change would be slated for 0.20. It’d therefore become the only tank to have an actual 140mm gun (since it did have a 140mm in real life) after Balance 2.0.
The Chally 2 ATDU was suggested by Nakoomba (AKA Felix Kupis, a lead developer) on one of Cris’ recent streams to lose its 140mm for a 120mm, though with much faster HESH rounds. I don’t think they’ll switch the name to Challenger 2 “Megatron” (the nickname of the C2 testbed used by the ATDU team at Bovington) since there’d be obvious copyright issues. XD
Despite the desire to better conform to reality, the Leopard 2-X with 130mm would STILL be a paper, fantasy tank: the Rheinmetall 130mm was designed as a prerequisite for the future French-German MGCS main battle tank (tentative rollout date: 2030); the current Leo 2 turret is incompatible with the Rh130 and the latter is built to work in tandem with an autoloader anyway (the 130mm rounds are rather long and heavy for a human loader). And the “Leopard 3” name you can see on the Rheinmetall brochures is just another name for the MGCS; the 3D model used for the illustrations was that of the Leopard 2 Revolution (not to be mistaken with the 2A4 Evolution, BTW). No one knows what the MGCS will look like, so OE can’t introduce that tank in the game.
I doubt they’ll switch the nomenclature to Leopard 2A8, since it’s not even built yet and, even then, it is supposed to receive a more powerful 120mm gun (20% more powerful than the current Rh120), not a 130mm.
The only Leos 2s to have had a 140mm gun, BTW, are the Swiss Pz 87-140 (two prototypes were built, with one having extra armor on the turret) and the German KWS III (which was a semi-failure due to the gun+round handling issues). Maybe those will be introduced one day, who knows. One thing is certain: prototypes were built and test-fired, so we’re not talking paper tanks here.
As for the loss of the 152mm, I’d say it’s a step closer to reality. We’re not even sure the Russians have started developing/testing the 152mm turret, so until an actual working prototype makes its appearance, we’re still wading in make-believe territory.
Also, I believe the Abbot and some other SPGs already have limited turret traverse on the PTS: they can’t traverse 180°, only up to 90° IIRC.
Well, I’m interested in what they’re gonna do, but having only just unlocked and purchased the Armata, Leo, and a few other tier 10’s I feel a bit put out that they’re gonna be changed just after I got them!
according to one of the blog’s linked in the community contributions news article, the Leo 2A7-140 will be called the Leo 2-X
Seeing as the t-14 is the only tier ten I have I’m pretty pissed
The 125 gun for the Armata is much better balanced and more accurate.Good choice …. and the 130 mm for the Leo2A7 also good choice because in real life the 2A7 could never fit a 140 mm breachlock in the turret.. lol
400 ping wtf lol
I know you & some of your viewers are big fans of balance-tinkering. For me, the way WG ( for example) has constantly buffed and nerfed vehicles is a bug, not a feature– especially when players have invested big €€, $$, ££, and ¥¥ — plus a lot of time– in certain lines, tanks or other vehicles. With WoT, I just gave up after a while.. it’s as if, mid-game, the soccer or football ref just up and changed the rules, the players abilities, and the team-roster. In real life, some tanks were ‘OP’; others were super-dependable; battles depend on luck, skill, mastering your vehicle (strength, weakness, unique qualities). Futzing about– and it will never stop– makes many of these games seem utterly arbitrary.
The new atgm wiesel has also limited turret traverse on the pts
Rebalance of the T-14? Interesting. Currently it’s my only tier 10. Time will tell if it makes that much of a diff besides making me smile with those 1k+ damage hits.
Just 2 questions about some tanks that are being moved around.
1. The LAV-600 is being moved down to tier 6 & replaced with the Centauro 105 at tier 7. Will I automatically get the tier 7 Centauro 105 if I already have the LAV-600?
2. The Centauro 120 is being moved to tier 9 from tier 7. Will I automatically get the tier 9 Centauro 120? Or will I be compensated with it’s tier 7 purchase price in credits?
Bad idea for changing T-14 152 gun ! If A.W keeps this up they will kill N/A server not many players some days.
Bloody furious that my pretty new Armata is going to loose it’s gun!! The stock gun is crap….
balance 2,0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNo7B8CEWn0
NÒÒOOOOÒOOOOOÒO NOT THE 152MM GUN ZZZZZZ
Вот ты рак,аха )))
spg on B2.0 are going to be a TD with track and big gun that use HE right? meaning they are going to lose bird view and have the same sniper mode like other tanks
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