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Funny how we never see any Russia MBT’s br increase 🤔
There’s literally no reason for russian mbts to go up.
Object 906 to br 7.3 I like it.
Why don’t they just move the HSTV-L to 11.0 and give it better post pen, m774 levels of pen, a 1 second reload and a HE proxy round.
true if they give HSTV the proxy shell which its suppose to have and shot it up to 11.0 then im fine with that its brought up to 11.0 99% of the time anyways
and yea the pen of the HSTV’s shell is subpar and even its velocity is 100 meters slower than its IRL document says and same for its pen since the existing document states that it has similar penetration values as the 105 on m1 abrams surely the old shells not the M900
if they increase its pen to like just 300-320 and give it proxy shell then 11.0 im more than happy for it
many people might think proxy is OP but seriously with HSTV’s max ammo count i dare you bring more than 5
@Ozoah Ameg It could take 60 rounds – the 26 was just a test.
@Maximilian John true but 26 is whats ingame max and i doubt gaijin will allow it to bring its IRL max rounds
@Ozoah Ameg I think BR 11.3 wouldn’t be high enough if all informations would be added properly.
It would just fit to good in the game.
@Maximilian John true but i cant see than happening in a couple of months
If they are gonna bring the begleit to 8.7 they should at least give it its stabilizer
Has anyone been shot down your planes from tanks machines guns like 1 klm away lol
I hope they make the air support for lineups more accurate and harder to spawn. M48s weren’t supported by P-47s they were supported by F-4 phantoms. Plus gaijin needs to do this if they want to cash out on modern military jets like F35s and it would mean battle ratings would have to decompress atleast a little bit.
Soo…. They’re not putting both the tigers back at 5.7? I mean having the E at 6.0 for barely any meaningful performance increase was bad but I’d take it over both at 5.3.
So basically for those part, it’s like let’s keep increasing brs so that things get penned even easier. Point and click adventure game, no longer a tank game.
Chi Nu is getting nerfed again 😞
The Ferdinand was already trash at 6.3
@winter it is trash, nobody would play the Ferdinand over a king tiger, and no I play Russia, Japan and Germany and do well with them all only certain tanks under each tech tree doesn’t make sense and I feel sad for the Ferdinand player that will go up against my object 120 lol
@Juan clearly a skill issue
@winter okay, have you considered seeking attention at your parents?
@Juan Cry about it
@P. curtus oh snap didn’t know there are two of them my fault, I’m only at 5.7 with Japan now, but must say I am enjoying the Japanese tech tree alot
Those PZ 4’s going down might hurt german players more. At 4.0 you get exposed to at least a few more tanks and learn where to shoot before you jump to 5.3 with the tiger and panther
I have never seen a game company other than EA trying to mess with its own player base.
1. They deliberately slow down the research process by decreasing RP gain, removing air spawn for modern bombers and attackers.
2. Bombers already suffer from low altitude spawn and get killed easily by enemy attackers. Most people already stopped playing bombers at certain BRs.
3. Increased repair costs for vehicles which they cannot balance and see “high cost” as a solution.
4. Premium account used to contribute a lot but not anymore.
5. ONLY SOLUTION IS PREMIUM VEHICLES…Gaijin = Money Thirsty Company
Planes are cancer in ground RB, nobody wants to be bombed while in heat 1 on 1 conflict.
TL;DR: I don’t agree with the OTOMATIC going to 10.7. It should stay at 10.3.
The OTOMATIC cannot kill maneuvering aircraft reliably past 4km+. Yes, the IRST is a great bonus, being very useful for surprise attacks, but it kinda sucks ass at 10.7+ when you’re trying to shoot down a MiG-27K at 6km+ above sea level or a helicopter 7km+ away loitering beside large mountains. Once you see the tracer of the OTOMATIC, it is quite easy to dodge at those ranges. The OTOMATIC really only shines against rocket rushers or bad CAS players who decide to use dumb bombs or rockets at top tier. That being said, an IFV or another SPAA with regular guns can just as easily kill those close air targets without the need of a 76mm proximity fuse round.
The 0.5s reload matched with it’s APFSDS is a great combination to dominate in CQC. The only downsides are the fact it can only hold 12 APFSDS rounds and its obesity. Yes, it’s on a modified OF-40 chassis, but that still doesn’t prevent it from being a slow fatass. It’s very large with no armour, making it susceptible to dying relatively easy to the lack of tall cover. If your opponent can actually aim, your large breach won’t stop you from combusting.
10.3 tends to get more downtiers than 10.7 (from my experience at least), improving the OTOMATIC’s overall effectiveness against CAS in its BR range. I don’t really know why Gaijin decided to move it to 10.7, as nobody plays Italy already. At this point they’re just making an already irrelevant nation even more irrelevant with their BR increases.
Preferably I’d like it to go to 10.0 so it could be a great back-up for the Ariete (P), but at that point I think that’s just my bias talking.
thanks for listening to my ted talk 📮
Strange.. i noticed not a single russian tank was changed in BR especially on realistic. Looks like the whole game is designed arround russian tanks so they can fit best, just my 2cents.
Uptiering USA and other nations doesnt solve the problems of the game atm. Its not like USA has the highest winrate going on right now. Im not onesided, i also play russian, german and usa high tier. But playing other nation than russia is now a pain in the A55. This game needs to become a game again not a propaganda! One way would be like giving all modern MBTs the same thermal generation like it was in the beginning.
When i checked last time how many gen3 thermals russia has, compared to germany or usa, i was shocked. Its like a punch in the scrotum right away, with announcement. By equalize all vehicles with thermals to same thermal quality would balance out the game a bit. With crystal clear thermals the russians have a big advantage over all. Seeing an enemy before getting spotted is the key on high tier!
Moving up the HSTV-L is also kinde ok but again depending who you up against, mostly russia for me. Against russia you literally cant do anything since the active armor stops the shots completely. On 10.7 it will see t72b3 ubh, t90 and the all feared t80bvm more often than it is the case now. we all know were this leads to.. right more frustration.
You see i’m a frustrated player so i simple could give up and switch to russian tanks and problem is solved, but no. I care about the game and i want a fair game for everyone cause i know the pain of the players who just play for one of the weaker nations.
The preference of the premium vehicles is another topic. You see this game has so many construction sites but yea its more important to rise the repair cost of some vehicles ad absurdum and tweak BR so one specific nation can feel compfortable. Thats all we get in the past 10 years. oh not to forget the new sounds and the new ground transforming feature very useful-_-
The T-44 going to 6.7 is gotta be the dumbest thing Gaijin has done this week. T-44 is just a dogshit Panther; nearly impenetrable UFP, turret weak spot, but without the volumetric turret blackhole that is gunner optics, good suspension or good gun. Like 135mm of penetration if you use the shell with the most explosive filler, 167mm for best penning shell. The fact that Panthers sit a whole BR lower than a tank with some equivalency should tell you all you need to know about Germain mains.
Not to mention that this completely ruined the 6.3 lineup that was the IS-2 ’44, 2S3M, and SU-100P. It was perfect, it had a vehicle for every situation.
Not to mention it’s going to see 7.7 uptiers into the super heavy tanks that will obliterate it 10 times out of 10. It being the same br as all these other vehicles that completely outclass it is sad to see.
Might as well just use the 100mm version a br higher.
Dadgum Gaijin just hates the US having any fun at top tier. Everything keeps getting moved higher and higher.
nooooOOOOOO DONT FUCK MY FERDINAND!!!!!
I just want the Mirage F1 nothing else :C
Why TF is the fucking PT-76-57 not moved to 9.0-10.0? This thing is way to OP in its BR, even in 7.7. Fucking Gaijin
Because compare to higher tier IFV it lack ATGM (or a dart like the Lvkv/Strf) and thermal, it is useable at higher br don’t get me wrong but you cannot say it’s an equivalent to 8.7-10.0 IFV.
Think Israel ground tree could come with it?
T-44 at 6.7 is gonna be “sooo fun”, considering it already lacks pen at 6.3. Chi nu II at 4.7? Meanwhile the tank it is closest compares to, the panzer 4 H, sits at 3.7? Makes total sense with a full 1.0 br difference for 11mm of extra pen while having worse armor?
Overall i have seen worse br updates (Like when they attempted to put the german M48 at 6.7), but they always manages to sneak in some absolutely stupid changes that makes 0 sense every time.
@Daphy Drake I think the panzer 4h should stay where it is, it might have more armor but let’s be honest it doesn’t help for anything anyway, the chi nu is like paper and panzer 4h is carton lol
@Daphy Drake and I might just be getting lucky because for me currently it’s performing insanely well at angles not sure if it’s broken or not
@Juan It does matter sometimes. With the extra track armor the front hull is about 90mm thick. That’s enough to bounce american 75mm at 500m+ Can’t exactly rely on it due to the bad turret armor and since you can’t really angle. But it’s better then the Chi nu that will never bounce even a badly placed shot. If anything they should both stay where they are. 0.3 br difference rather then 1.0
@Juan Not sure but i know for me the chu nu struggles with the upfp of a T34 even at close range and the panzer 4 goes right thru. Non capped ap doesn’t like that 60° angle. Been a while since i played japan tho.
@Daphy Drake yeah play Japan again trust me whatever is up with the chi nu is great, yeah honestly both the pz4 and chi nu could go up, not just the chi nu, the pz4 is a beast aswell
Wait, Stona is a guy?
Opinions can’t be wrong, but it’s close with the T-44 take. Can’t even come close to agreeing with that. Totally unbalanced in uptiers, it needs to be max 6.3.
The Leopard 2pl has gotten a buff sometime ago when it had the dm43 added to it so could you revisit the vehicle once more and clap some russians 😀
Pt 76-57 got an uptier…GOOD!
They need to fix the zoom for the type 74 G it’s horrible
Why is this update bad???
Meh imma jinx y’all and say it could have been worse lol
I know it’s absofuckinglutely garbage but I’d love to see the T95E1
I actually really like these talking head videos, keep up the good work!
Probably not something you would see much but, as an early player, the one that stuck out for me was the up tier of the premium B1ter. That thing was next to impossible to take out at 2.3 and required a swarm to knock it out!
PT-76-57 going to 7.7 is absolutely warranted, but keeping it Rank IV while even the highest TT Rank V vehicles are 7.7 is ridiculous
If the HSTV-L goes to 10.7, i want the apfsds shell velocity to be fixed (missing 10% of the velocity) and it should get its HEVT shell.
Coming back to your channel after a few weeks I have to say the quality of your videos has improved. Not sure what changed, but keep up the good work!
When will the update drop?
heheheh was already running the PT in my 7.7 lineup :3
bvm a6 type 10 must be 11.3 and 2s6 must be 11
I can’t understand Russia has 70% win rate but no any nurf. USA the fkcing shit thanks are nurfed. Gajin does not know what balance is.
T-44 “for the sake of balance”
It shoots a shell from 4.3….
As soon as I got the US ADATS I stop playing at 10.3 and use 11.0 with M1A1HC, Peten, F-4E, HSTV-L, IPM1, M1A1, ADATS, M3A3.
I really like the feeling when I can start with a new and complete lineup at a new BR.
Even if I have a full and insane 11.3 USSR lineup with Su-22M3, Ka-52 and all tanks I don’t like to play it right now. It is just to easy to be a fun competition to get a win.
The 10.3 US lineup was insanly good to with all the downtiers but at least it helped with the grind.
T-44 at 6.7 absolutely trashed that 6.3 line-up !
Finally the Begleit gets a higher BR! This has been needed for years. The thing absolutely stomps even in full uptier and beyond games. I’m not sure I agree with the Weisel being bumped to 9.7 but all the other changes I agree with.
holy shit the df105 went to7.7??? but the bmp1 is still 7.3????????????????????????????????????? wild ass
side note, theyre compressing the shit out of the high end this update
blyat must nerf every other vehicle besides russian vehicles
I voiced my opinion on the forums civilly before. It turned sour for people being rude and it felt like the developer that got involved sided with the rude posts not the information from the players that responded on facts and statistics wether the agreed with me or not. With I have not posted on there in awhile.
R3 going to 5.0 sad
Lmao. Ikv 103 with a 400mm pen heatfs round going to 4.7. This may be the most Gaijin br change yet.
The M15/42 going from 2.3 to 2.7 makes no sense at all.
My max BR to the M15/42 would be 2.0, because the P40 75/18 prototype would be better fitted to 2.3, but still it performed decently at 2.3.
I honestly don’t understand what Gaijin have in their heads, if a tank is not capable of competing in higher BR, there’s no reason to change it just because players perform really good in it, it would make sense if the tank could perform well in that higher BR but that doesn’t work out with the M15/42.
AGS at 9.7 is just stupid. It doesn’t have enough punch for that. Also, it’s the same BR as M1128 sits at with much better round, while being faster.