Mingles with Jingles Episode 217

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In which I have a good laugh at Rita playing but at the same time really enjoyed playing with her (and she got good, really fast). I ponder the irony of how multiplayer games based around teamwork grow more toxic communities as they grow more popular, and yet at the same time a game like EVE which infamous for griefing has one of the best online communities ever. I have a good rant about YouTube’s idiotic advertising policies and finally bow to the inevitable and set up a Patreon page.

Also thank you to the Awesome Epic Guys (I’m not making that up, that’s their name) for this weeks’ clip.

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50 Comments:

  1. The Mighty Jingles

    And in a move that surprised absolutely no-one, YouTube have demonetised this episode of Mingles with Jingles…

  2. Jingles ya lazy bugger. I’m up at 04:00 – except on Sundays 😀

  3. Bit of “Street Theater” ? Sir i have been playing the game since 2004 and you are a champion of understatement. lol. Keep on trucking Jingles!

  4. SCREW YouTube. U$D incoming via Patreon.

  5. It’ll be funny when YouTube becomes a receptacle for videos that make their money through Patreon. YT gets nothing, everyone still gets content made that they feel are worth a few dollars.
    Ultimately YT and their advertisers are the ones who’ll be missing out.
    Great business model.
    I wonder if anyone’s done the obvious piece of research, namely to determine to what degree does the feared reputational damage of having an advertisement on ‘controversial’ videos in fact arise. It’s entirely possible advertisers are running from a fear that is imaginary.
    But, hey, we all know what Google thinks of scientific research informing their behaviour; ask James Damore, and look at the utterly brainless response of their ‘VP of Diversity’ (or whatever bullshit title it is) to his memo.

  6. Jingles, you’re right. WoT is so toxic I’d ignore chat all together if I wasn’t afraid of being reported and not not being able to defend myself for not defending whatever kamakazie blames me for his death. Actually don’t really play right now now due to the toxicity.

  7. Marshall Allshouse

    I send my feelings on the topic of demonetization, as it is rather irritating.
    however, as a broke college student, and my undying love for this channel I will support when I can afford to

  8. With the youtube thing, if you don’t get the cash for the advertisement on the vid, does youtube get it instead? Seems if it does that would be incredibly unethical, they screw over your income whilst bolstering theirs.

  9. world of tanks took the fun from itself with the insane lack of balance, the game id far to much work rather than fun now, and its to expensive to play with the addition of heavily armored tanks makes it so much more necessary to have premium rounds, and the tier 8 premium tanks that are better in all respects than other tier 8 tanks, WHAT THE FUCK WARGAMING, PAY TO WIN FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. Hey Jingles, I see those assholes in WOT as well, but not very often. Once maybe every 10 games, come try the NA server sometime.

  11. Jingles i hope she dosen’t cook dinner for you.

  12. this monday was definantly not a good one in US, may the victims rest in peace

  13. Eve sounds fun enough, but it strikes me as Hillary Clinton Space Sim 2017. I dunno, I’m not sure I’m in to the whole beating the crap out of someone for the sake of beating the crap out of someone.

  14. I think it depends more on how much you can troll in a game that determines how many assholes are in it. If the game mechanics allow more trolling in a certain game, you will see a lot more of those asshole type players in it. I have played other online games that allowed people to get away with some crazy things and they were way worse than World of Tanks for the amount of assholes in them. A game called Starbattle which was a Starcraft 2 arcade game is one of those. It had a very small community but the asshole/troll to total player ration was extremely high in that game. The things players could get away with in that game made it even worse.

  15. The whole world is toxic

  16. One thing i love about the World of warships, When it comes to community, is that it has quick chat options for sorry, and thank you, which for some reason in World of tanks doesnt exist.

  17. I think world of tanks creates assholes. I like to think I’m a nice enough person, but sometimes a bad rng role for the Nth time in a row can just make me get so angry. I try not to blame others in chat, but when someone throws the game that can be infuriating as well. I have stopped playing for the most part. When I play I realize I’m usually not actually having much fun – there are just so many aspects that are so frustrating, I find I’m addicted to the grind and to the idea of what the game should be but the majority of the time I spend playing it just isn’t worth it.

  18. wot blitz community isn’t that toxic at all except for the occasional jerk

  19. I hear you about YouTube nothing new there and I really don’t want to support google so I support other YouTuber’s thru patreon.  Matt C

  20. Hey Jingles, just moved to the UK from the States. I am enjoying the UK a ton, but its all kind of overwhelming. If you have any tips for helping me settle in or have any ideas for things to see/do, I would appreciate any help. Thank you for always uploading great videos and I hope you are doing well.

  21. Hold on, yours got demonetised but, IEarlGreys video on the Gallant, featuring the same sort of game play did not ?

  22. World of warships should bring back tier five in operations.

  23. Grosstraktor has returned! Thanks for the shout out Jingles! 😀

  24. 19:44 Justice for gold spamming noobs! Or maybe not a noob in this case, just a tryhard looking to pad their W/R

  25. I am now a official patron of the mighty jingles, couldn’t be more proud to support you jingles you are always a important part of my morning or afternoon or any time of the day that I can sit down and watch your videos
    Your pall always, GodzillaKing

  26. And people say the Asia server is bad by our community does not get the toxicity as much. The sever is actually nice. Almost every game I play I generally battlefield platoon and play with randoms for most of the night

  27. I completely agree with you on the toxic behaviour of players in World of Tanks. When things go wrong it’s easier to criticise than providing tips to others on how they can improve. When I first started playing WoT I remember watching an old video of yours where a player who was older and didn’t quite have the ability to keep up kept getting hate comment from people, but only 1 person offered him advice and took him to a training room to show him what he was doing wrong and how to fix it. Since then I’ve tried to stay polite and respectful whenever I get hateful post battle messages because that’s my way of trying to fix the problem of toxic players. Plus usually that gets them to shut up because they don’t know how to respond to kindness, if they’re good people who had a bad game they tend to apologize for their behaviour. I also try to comfort players who get targeted by raging assholes as a kind word reminds them that not everyone is a jerk and there are good people who play this game too. I usually end my messages with the following. “Tis as an honor to fight alongside you and I hope that we can fight as allies again in future. Best of luck you to you in your matches and I’ll see you on the battlefield!”. I know this is a lot of work compared to calling a person a tomato, noob, or telling them to uninstall, but this is in my opinion the only way to get this community into a better direction without bloodshed. Thanks for the awesome video and keep up the good work!

  28. I went straight to patreon….

  29. The most toxic thing about this game is that it is geared towards lame players where it allows them to dominate the game while hiding at the back – yes I’m talking about arty fags, rarely a game goes by where they don’t target me – even though I’m mostly bottom tier, and what can you do about it?   NOTHING  – goog job I’m dumping this rubbish for good very soon

  30. lololol
    I haven’t played Warships in over a year
    My Minekaze and other Japanese DD were my favorites, aside from CV

  31. @6:00 I am just staring at the smoke coming from that fire @_@!!!!!!
    WTF?!?! lol

  32. Nuclear Disco Donkey

    Wow. Eve online… Admiration for being the biggest dick ever? Glad I never started playing that game; let all the retards play together there.

  33. I’m starting to think YouTubers need to start coming up with code language to get away from this automatic bs. Like drugs = sandwiches, and cartels = shops or somesuch. Damn those “Sandwich Shops” we need to close them down! Oy vey…

  34. its time for youtube to die. we need a new platform that is not worried about the advertisers. if you want to advertise take it at face value.

  35. Nuclear Disco Donkey

    I’m late… Might as well tell a joke: people who use the words “git gud”…

  36. Jingles. I don’t know if you will get the chance to read this, but it is with regards to the toxicity that goes on in almost every game in WoT. Now I suffer from an aggressive form of Epilepsy which means that my concentration is not great and I always mention this before the game and a fair number of teams to be honest have been have been ok with it, saying ‘ just do your best’. Of course there will be the occasional asshole that will go out of their way to try to insult you in the worst way they can. If having Epilepsy was not bad enough, I very recently suffered what could be a stroke ( I am only 45 ) so this was quite a shock to happen to me at this age. Now I am concerned the amount of hatred that will come my way. For a lot of people to say just ignore it is not very easy for them. I used to be OK with that with just the Epilepsy to deal with. But now with this possible stroke I will find it significantly more difficult to deal with. I have in the past sent tickets when someone has said something that was way over the top, but I always get a copy and paste answer, and they close the ticket. I enjoy the game for the most part, but now I really not sure what I should do as it is one of the only games that I enjoy.

  37. Valtr, Master of the League

    Oh Jingles, don’t forget the guy that died early on and it actually wasn’t his fault. Victim of circumstance, wrong place wrong time early on, only to have someone on his team start insulting him. This is part of why I stopped playing WoT. I know I can just turn chat off, but I like being able to communicate with my team, despite having just met them. This is once in a blue moon in WoT, and that was just one of many deciding factors.

  38. Youtube wants to “accidentally” demonetize videos using their suspiciously new algorithm because they want more money for themselves

  39. have to look up eve online

  40. Jingles shod play on the aisn sever there is no bull crap

  41. the thing i dont understand is, why does non of the youtubers go together and make a new plaform. every sigle one i watch are talking about the youtube hammer, ether if they are a blogger or a gamer. i know it wil be a huge job to make somthing like this. but then you can become what youtube was 2 years ago or somthing like that or make it even better.

  42. Tech Deals Gaming

    Regarding EVE Online, I’m surprised more of that conflict hasn’t carried over into real life… I suppose most of those players are careful to protect their real life identity…

    Scam someone in the game and think it is funny?

    https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/09/29/how-eve-online-theft-ended-in-death-threats/
    https://www.techspot.com/news/71206-biggest-heist-eve-online-history-led-real-world.html

    If you steal something worth $60,000 real dollars, you won’t find the person you stole it from cares very much what the game’s rules are…

  43. 6:10 That fire animation looks disgusting. Doesn’t help that it’s being shown alongside the normal smokestack, of course…

  44. I have both the Kamikaze R and the Fujin. They have both identical modules and stats. So the one you can get hold of first, buy it!
    They are not a super-weapon. But they are nice boats.

  45. EVE Online, doesn’t care about anything except making money.

    Had an account hacked and stolen, told it was my fault, by the GM’s.

    After what they did to the White Wolf WoD MMO, they deserve to be shut down and fired.

  46. bert van TWESER-G YouTube

    toxic players are That stats paters no live players in wg . in real live are the nothing big nerds . nice video Je ; )

  47. I think trump is playing WOT, because he is a dick and asshole, like online assholes

  48. 4 days ago in “Tiger Rampage”, Circon called everyone using XVM “phukin’ idiots” in the video and in the comments . Recently when he nails someone he screams “Suk my dic”…:X
    Claus Kellerman in all his videos – muppets, idiots, moronic team mates…etc.
    I may be mistaken, but they’re community contributors, right?
    Great gameplay,I watch them to learn stuff, but in the chat I see the same sh1t.
    If you’re like me you’ll be more frustrated by the fact you can’t do anything … don’t let aszholes get the best of you its always nice too see some gamepaly with funny commentary. At least that’s why I’m around
    Keep up the good work!
    Regards

  49. with this demonetisation fiasco it’s time to think of an alternative to Youtube. they are pushing their abuse of dominant position way too far.

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