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What do you guys think?
Not fair because we need to pay for, so pay to win (or pay to be invisible)
It matters in realistic. It’s pay for an advantage. = pay to win
I was going to make a joke about dupstep
But I dropped it.
only Golden eagles = shit
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The decorations are so incredibly stupid. I really hoped this game wouldn’t turn into something “funny”. I expected at least some realism of WT, since this kinda ruining my immersion.
IS-1 awkward with the tracks lol
its not fair yes！ but its not pay to win
Nice addition, another cash grab (because gaijin doesn’t have enough money) but players who play arcade mode it wont matter because the spotting system is so retarded….
I want to make my tiger like a tree
FUCKING REALLY ITS ALL GOLDEN EAGALS OMFG FFS HOW DID I KNOW COME ON FFS I REALLY WANTED THIS AND I CANT CUS OF THIS AIDS OMFG
warthunder is starting to turn into a pay to play game
of course it’s fair they did it in history you can do it yourself
Phlydaily it’s awesome!!
The additional armor is pretty amazing. My Panzer IV H has now the same frontal armor as the Tiger :D
Pretty damn unfair that this is premium only
where is wings of prey?
FUCK. Gaijin wants to make WT more like WoT, its becoming more and more p2w…
I think its fare, the fact you have a bug red name/type/range above you 247 or when spotted doesn’t help at all. The bushes will help hide vital areas etc… To the enemy when you have been spotted by them to give you a better chance.
The Maus needs this feature. A giant Bush.
Can you only buy the camo with golden eagles or can you unlock them?
11:10 70s pornstar tank.
but the firefly has more armor too
Technically pay-to-win… to an extent.
ply do custom battle and do hide and seek with small tanks camouflage
This is amazing , they should keep it in game , HOWEVER I think you should be able to place the additional armor youself….
It’s nice how the devblog neglected to mention these were pay-to-win options.
the winter camo etc are not behind a paywall anymore you can even see it in this video at 12:56 when you hover over the winter camo it clearly states that it will unlock after 340 kills with this tank
you have to buy it with golden eagles or can you unlock it ?
I don’t like the way we have to pay for the bushes
there are plenty of for trees in the United States Phly
world of tenks best ten game
If they don’t make those camo elements accesible without having to pay real money for them, the community will rebel. This is gaijin blatantly demanding money in return for making your tank more difficult to spot.
Fucking Pay 2 Win bullshit
you can unlock winter camo with enough kills.
The bushes look pretty Derpy
The into song is my favorite song.
Pay to Win? D:
Sends a very obvious message from Gaijin…Pay money and we’ll help you win. Otherwise you’re on your own. :/
1000 RP per bush?
I think it should be unlockable to balance it out. Also.. if you decide to buy the bush bush addon will it just be there for that tank or for all of your vehicles?
My war thunder isn’t working after the update it keeps crashing when i start it. does anyone has tips for me because i tried almost everything to fix it but nothing has worked yet.
i kind of liked the idea of the camo thing but as soon as i saw the 500ge cost it turned in to a big NOPE
fuck this i have to use golden eagles ohhhh well
Anyone know why it wont download the new update for me? (1.57)
It should be a deployable item for tds.
Good idea haha
I think it’s stupid it doesn’t cost lions but it cost eagles it’s becoming a pay to see win
500 GE?! They´re nuts!
I think the camouflage should be able to unlocked by grinding RP or kills, like the vehicle skins
This is the most pay-to-win thing I’ve seen yet. I was hoping it would be unlockable for everyone.
THAT PAYWALL BULLSHIT IS FUCKED UP, PAY2WIN IS SO REAL NOW
You’re selling a tactical advantage half a thousand GE a pop
And before randoms start spouting nonsense DONT PUT IT ON YOUR WINTER CAMO
we need game play with this cammo :S
onxe you said buy them all i knew THIS WA GONNA BE A PIECE OF SHIT
Next we have the Japa… just kiddin’
Haha :)) Noo.. this is silly ^^
War is not fair…Doesn’t have to be fair…so you think the Nazi played it fair with U.S no….If We all looking for Realistic game play, then its doesn’t have to be fair…
in warthunder u have a 70% higher chance to have a great game. only if u pay!!
This is so awesome!! :O I am so happy when i have my Pc
I think that it is good!
It might be a pay to camo. But you can just use the free GE wagers and buy atleast 1 of them. And since when you buy it it stays unlocked for all of your tanks. Its annoying but its not that horrible if its just 1 piece of bush.
If you want more variety then yes it is preety much pay 2 camo. Gaijin at its finest.
Those who use that camo will be fucked when they end up on an urban map or any map the bushes don’t match up
I think that 50-100 kills per tank would be fair for the bushes. They should however still be purchesable using eagles. They would take a while to grind but it would still be fair.
The decorations should remain as they are.
you fucked up the intro .-.
fuck this game its for golden eagles…
Oh wooooow Warthunder…. In the gaming industry you are known as pretty much the boss of bad decisions…do you really want to keep that image? Well clearly you do if you’re putting the fucking camouflage behind a fucking pay-wall >< Jesus that is such a stupid move; you dense fucks.
Sorry but the decision making here is that of a 6 year old
F2P =/= P2W
Pay to win….
What in the actual fuck?? 500golden eagles per one thing??? pff, insta-lost interest of this crap..
And if you turn your graphics to minimal, then those bushes turn into green, smoky shit that is impossible to miss, or they got this one right cuz, you know, people pay?
More pay to win features.
Some backlash… I’m pretty sure it’s a hell of a lot of backlash.
warthunder has always been a pay to play game, paying for a bush you can add to your tank is a bit too cheeky though should be something you research.
If Gaijin add this for all tanks, imma put a life raft on my PT-76 :D
Germans need to have that gray metal look that you can mess up and make it dirty so we are not stuck with the goddamn yellow all the time.
500 eagles each? Dafuq?
Well, yeah…I feel you guys who think its unfair. But to be honest I think Gaijin deserves that to be added. I mean I play this game for more than 2 years now and I haven’t payed a dime for any premium stuff. Yet, I have almost all the premium aircrafts I need (at least 2 higher tier per every nation) and also some tanks as well. For free…and no, I’m not a youtuber, I haven’t won any competition, I’m a regular player taking advantage of most of the oportunities to get GE. And in the past years Gaijin gave us a bunch of oportunities.
“Next we have the japanese.. Just kidding”
Hearths broken here
It really isnt p2w. You can buy it once and you get like 6 of them. Not like you be buying all of them
do you get them for all the tanks if you buy one sett of the camo
the winter camouflage is not behind a pay wall, you can unlock it by getting x amount of kills
why do muricans cry so much? OMFG
its bad they are charging 500 ge, on each vehicle too, that last man bs too, all day nearly everygame, I get assists, I do all hard work, spotting, finding and put my shots in the right places, just for a team mate to kill that last person in the tank and you get an assist, unhappy face :(
“Must be a European plant.” I facepalmed so hard, I knocked myself out.
so its 500 for a hat.. for a tank.. kk…
Nice new intro sound
Please gaijin dont make this game a pay to win #makeWTgr8again
Hi. A few months ago, I was diagnosed with chronic unhappiness… I talked to my Doctor about not playing this fucking game. My wife and I agree that it was the right move for me. Talk to your Doctor about switching to not-a-piece-of-unbalanced-shit today!
is the camo for all tanks ?
Pretty cool dude your the best and i liked the old intro
douglas fir is a christmas tree
On a winter map, the yeller tank shoulda go where there’s yeller snow? :p
I wish they did it like tank camos, where you can pay 200 eagles upfront or get a certain amount of kills to unlock it for free. I’m quite disappointed with gajian :(
So I was in the middle of class and my phone was on and Phly uploaded it was pretty funny though
Ultra Low :P
-honey? Did you brought some milk for the kid he is starving -Nah, sorry I needed the money to buy some virtual bush to add to my tank
if you can have only by paying then i am quitting this game….Seriously FUCK YOU GAIJIN
people spent so much time complaining about people with low graphics turning off “all foliage and trees and shit” and now they add both more foliage and this.
this is stupid
So…we have to start to use free golden eagles app!
Ok so that you need to buy these with golden eagels makes this slightly p2win. Espacialy in RL Battles
A RED ARROW!!!
i think 500 GE per camo bush is a bit too much, its fucking branches, i can get them for free by stepping outside, Secondly, it would be AWESOME if the additional “Track armor” got removed bit by bit if you got De-Tracked and used them to repair
I was excited for this, but seriously.. This was only implemented because the devs want more money. To me, this is just more Pay-To-Win by Gajin
why, why the fuck did they think, fuck fixing bugs, or other shit, LETS ADD GOAT SKULLS
THE BUSHES FADE AWAY AFTER DISTANCE!!!!
yes fly its far most people have there shit turn down so its kinda of usless
It would have been fair if it was either cheaper, or avaliable to everyone… 500GE PER PIECE! ffs…
Pay2win as fuck. No two ways around it, this is here so Gaijin can make shitloads of money and lifeless people will be impossible to see.
dude, fir is a common Christmas tree. and it is pronounced fur
Giajin is trying to make their pay to win strategy hidden and not so obvious so they wont get blasted. By doing the camouflage for gold strategy they are saying you will have a edge if you spend 5 dollars on gold to buy the camo. So pretty much spend 5 dollars to have a edge. Not only this but making the grind extreme and having premuim they are also highly “encouraging” people to spend money —pay to win. They will get away with it to because they will just ignore the hate until time goes by, fucking cheaters. This game went from you can pay if you want to support us and you get a tank/plane that looks cool and is alright , to you can pay if you want to do good and thus have fun, pressuring people into buying gold and thus squeezing the wallet of a consumer for every little drop.
dude are u serious ?! u have to buy these camouflages i would love it if u have to unlock them in idk extra missions maaaaaan …….
you have to pay??? I’m done. bye bye wt
put the life boat decal on a pt76
WHAT?! NO JAPANES TANK REVIEWS?OK DISLIKE o.O
I was pretty pumped for the camo, but sinse IT costs premium curency, this is hugely unfair!!!!!!! For exaample: i am not allowed use money on this game so I can’t get the camo and that gives everyone Else an Edge that i can’t have
Some much else wrong with the game currently and fucking greedjin decides to add more pay to win. What a great idea.
At least the tracks aren’t behind a paywall :(
Personally, I was PISSED when I discovered that the extra customisation options were behind a bloody paywall. Now those with a big enough wallet will have a distinct advantage over those who can’t afford to.
I definitely think it just made the game more pay to win if anything.
500 fucking golden eagles, and you can’t even unlock them!
Show us the m22 with bushes. Im really curious to see how it will look like.
i think Gajin should have at least give us a chance to “win” camo branches…
Why can’t you earn this stuff? Totally fair right there! ‘Yeah lets put actual camouflage behind a paywall’
Yo Phly take out the Sea Venom
IDK if you’re just being funny or not, but homogeneous is pronounced like homo gene eyus
Maybe they are going to be decorations for ships in the future
It’s a cool thought until you find out that you NEED to pay money to stick a branch on your tank.
More p2w bullshit from the cunts a pt gaijin.
DUDE You can make the FURY tank!! The gasmask and the german steel helmet right above it if you put it on the Sherman from it. And maybe some of the jerrycans
do i see this correctly ? i dont need to buy it for every tank on its own?
Does not know what leave/branch is. Assumes it’s European. GG phly…
Hey phly planning on playing some more anno?
”TANK CAMO – Is It Fair?” War isn’t fair.
I think that this stuff is total PTW bullshit. I can’t afford premium, and I love War Thunder, so I don’t really appreciate this kind of thing…
“all is fair in love and war”- Winston Churchill
what they should do is have each customization slot a ‘modifications’ upgrade. So you have to research each slot one at a time, encouraging grinding and rewarding good progress.
Ok, paywall for the ability to look like a bush is not fair in any way, shape, or form.
CAN I PUUT on me plane?
well at least the extra armor mod is not pay to win
Love the intro song
The real problem is the bushes covering weak spots for the tank, at distance it’s gonna be tough penning lower glacis etc… Really if they want to put it in, they should be implementing it for turretless spg only. Not mentionning american late T4 which look all the same with differents armor value. Differenciating them with only their gun barrel won’t be very fun…
Apparently you can’t really tell when you’re past about 100m that the bushes are even there. https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/4dc1lg/bushes_despawn_at_very_close_distances/
phly create fury and drive it next time
I am definitely displeased that the new camo foliage and decorations are only accessible via premium currency. I would have been fine if it cost Silver Lions to get it or was researchable like the new add-on armor, but as a wholly F2P player, this feels like a real smack in the face (and before people start saying that I should just cough up the money for the Golden Eagles, my funds are all tied up in more important things IRL, such as keeping my internet and power on and making sure I have food and water).
lmao, a fir tree is a European plant :P
Make the churchill more op like wtf
Like my girlfriend’s bush
Why is everything GE NOW?!!??
it’s pay to win
Huh! when I’m about to grind for German Tanks now…I left off on Tiger H1 and I switch to Russia, but I’m gonna continue again
-You only can get the bushes by paying golden eagles, hmm, right. What is that, boys? -Pay to win -I can’t hear you -Pay to win!! -Pay to what? -PAY TO WIN!!!! -There it is
from worse to pay2win
The argument that it’s unfair cause you can’t see them isn’t really valid in realistic and sim as they are meant to be close to real and adding foliage to armour was common practice
when i updated the game my progress reset 0_o
PhlyDaily do you have the free golden Eagles app? If you have can you tell me your e-mail so i can agree you, please answer
Phly will you put in the cool intro like you have before?
It’ll be for my TD’s only – no way any sane person would spend that much gold on bushes for every tank. That said Phil is you look there is one type of camo for each terrain type – ie fir trees for winter etc
Dam war thunder back at again with pay to win
on low settings the cammo stands out big time
They need to make the bushes unlockable, otherwise it’s not really pay to WIN, but you pay for an advantage. The other decals & shit can be paid, because they don’t really give an upgrade.
” Is It Fair? ” FFS of course it is ffs it is realism
hey phly u forgot that now everybody can get golden eagles through the app so its not realy a paywall :D
They dont render past 100m in 3d person view, gg gaijin
And people say wargaming is bad.
Can we see the legit Sherman Fury tank!
You forgot the Firefly!
tank camo is not supposed to be fair, thats the whole point of camo
I think the worst is people believe the bushes are going to hide them (an pay for it). It’s only cosmetic and fades after a dozen of meters :-)
So can someone help me. What do the green names mean because i always thought it was a squamate or a teammate but then i realized that this is not always true when i was shot down by an enemy with a green name
How can I add the armor?
31 people bought tank cammo
what has become of WT :/
Japanines tanks lol
Pay to style confirmed at least add another way to unlock
Is the armor also available for the T-34-85 D-5T or just the normal -85?
Is Gaijin really THAT hard up for our money?
It’s unfair that it only cost GE, It feels like P2W as the camouflage can be a great advantage, plus why do only paying users get the cool stuff, Okay, I do buy premium but I can’t fork out so much cash! This sucks…
this means you can finally put german helmets on the M4A2 W Fury
1970s bush hahaha I lost it
Goddammit Phly, your intro made me watch that live action War Thunder trailer again.
Could you say this is the start of the bush era for war thunder? ;D #puns
they need to make it that you can unlock the camo same as with the winter camo x amount of kills so you can grind for it aswell as buy it. and then maybe put some lions behind aswell could be ok
hetzer with bushes ?
Should not sell camouflage as gold eagle,but sliver money ,that will not be pay to win.
just shoot the moving bushes… same as always
500 huh? I’ll pass, if there were sandbags or bags and gerry cans from the period i would grab it
Winter camo isnt behind paywall. It behind kills. Play the tank OR pay
war isnt far ik its a game but come on you guys bitch about the wrong things, what we need to complain about is the last man standing i hate that bs
I hate how they added it
Phly please put Bushes on the T-95 doom turtle xD or if it isn’t in yet, do it when it is :D
DO A GAMEPLAY WHIT THE 20MM P51 IT IS JUST OP
Great idea, terrible implementation.
So, standard fare for Gaijin
it cost golden eagles FUCK YOUU GAIJIM
That intro Btw for anybody who does not know is do not hurry by Ana German (one of the song names it has)
I have no problem with it being behind a paywall. But you can put way more camo than what is balanced. Limiting it to two bushes instead of the six is an acceptable compromise.
Damn you Gaijin. DAMN YOU! You had the chance for a great addition, but you must get the money. So you make it behind a paywall instead of a modification, which it really is.
i feared these would be paid with GE but i never imagined they would be 500 a piece ! holy crap Gaijin ! are you serious ?
Is this real? Is this HONESTLY in game? I mean, I noticed that they removed all decals save a few (Too many Ukrainian flags probably)))))) But they’re honestly adding this?!
ply I dare you to take out the dauntless twin guns rek
Phly, I hate to burst your bubble, but someone on the forums did a test, and if you have render far objects set to off, the bush camo does not render farther than 400 m, EVEN if all other settings are set to MAX (aka no ULQ has the same effect as ULQ: camo useless from far away)
Doesn’t know how to pronounce a type of tree that exists in his own country. congrats
I hate that it costs ge pls gajin this is almost adding pay 2 win
Lol the 1970 bush?????
“I don’t look for a gun barrel in bushes” Maybe you should, as that’s how tankers in WW2 did it.
HE KEMP BUSH UNFAIR PLANE
Dumbest game developer of all time. This game is filled with hackers and cheaters that mostly consist of former developers that were fired. These people constantly try to convince everyone the game is “server sided” and that you can’t cheat LOL the game is also very unrealistic. Cars and objects on the road that look like they’ve been rusting for years suddenly explode..!.
My favorite part of the camouflage update is with the bush, you can cover a weakspot with the bush, and it’ll be harder for the enemy to find exactly where to shoot. (like he MG port on the T32 Heavy)
weed camo, anyone?
Im suprised no one has put a bunch of foliage onto a tanks’ turret to give it an hairstyle. You could give a tank a mowhawk or an afro or anything :3
Paying to be able to hide better IS pay to win. I quit warthunder till they fix there shit and looks like they are going down the worst path
The bush camo looks too natural, needs to look more artifical
So the new bushes can only be bought with golden eagles? Guess that means it’s Pay 2 Win.
This is what war thunder is coming too..
pay to win confirmed
I would totally be OK if that camo was unlockable with Modifactions on Tanks destroyers instead of extra armor. I would say that the buyable camo is pay-2-win
oh no very good
NO NEED TO PANIC Bushes wont render above 50m
P2W Romulan cloaking device, confirmed.
i get you guys im also mad but give gajin a chance give them one/two updates and if this P2W bullshit is still here then be mad. what i mean is after each update they can fuck it up but if it stays they are just money whores
also you cant really see the weakspots if theres a freaking bush on the tank
they should disbale this for TD’s
is it fair ? NO! if you have to pay 500 GE for each of them :(
Okay, first, does the signs work as additional armor ? that’d be awesome ! And secondly, I just won’t be able to bear the people who will make their tanks look ridiculous…
PSA: I don’t recommend the insygnia or whatever they’re called. You can only put one on each tank, and they’re pretty small. Just not worth the eagles. I bought one of the camo pieces, and you can put 6 of them on each tank max. The placement is kinda difficult since it can’t be near or on some important parts, but using all 6 to cover the entire front of your tank is not too difficult. The camo is a yes, all other stuff is a no.
It will be pay to win because you buy them with GE, it should be won for getting a set amount of kills in ten matches, so it rewards the good players. Everyone else can test them out for a week, so that gameplay isn’t ruined forever.
Time to return to low tiers again!
The big combi
On simulation its even more important not to block optics 😛 Learned the hard way! But after tweaking the camo on normandy 7 kills on marder. Epic ambushes from the bushes. Also on realistic on jagdpanther I can see the panic.. Im right in front of the tank among rocks, but sheer panic on some guys as they dont realize where the tank is. 😀 Tracers ofc always show your position, but you get the first 1-3 shots usually. 😀
Maybe bit OP. Like on tortoise I can hide weakspots and cupolas.. people have hard time “finding them” with shots. Same goes for lower glacis
But overall I like it. As a TD driver. Maybe they could be bit more conservative, but yeah… Works.
All you gotta do is play at low graphics or rarely at medium graphics, After that you’ll see all the bush scrubs ;D
Well it is a little O.P because when im playing my pz4 f2, t34 camo (jungle camo) is kinda hard to spot in heavly bushed areas. With this now it near impossible for me to see them in these areas.
Um phly for me the game the game is world of tanks on the description
Fair? Yeah it’s quite fair… As long as you aren’t in the wrong end of the cannon :P
ROLL OUT WITH THE MAX CAMO AND TRY TO SNIPE
first i was really happy about this but i will not support pay 2 win. gg gaijin….not
3 USD to put bush camo on every tank you have and could ever have seems reasonable to me.
Fore the other decorations it makes sense, but putting the foliage behind a paywall is a bad idea, since those aren’t just for pretty looks; they grant a advantage in the game. Significantly so in RB and SB.
Skulls and warning signs for Eagles? Yes, go ahead. Effective optical camouflage for Eagles? No, that’s unfair for anyone who doesn’t have Eagles.
Will be nice if you can put that lifebuoy on Pt 76 :D
This will be very unfair for ps4 users as we can’t turn down the graphics like PC users which is such a pain. I repeatedly get killed by players who fire through a whole forest it’s utter BS.
People use your brains if it was for free everyone would be having bushes all over them. ITS ONLY £3 GET OVER IT.
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