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Today I’m looking at the upcoming bonuses that emblems and inscriptions provide to crew skills in World of Tanks patch 10.0 Rubicon!
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World of Tanks is a Free 2 Play online game which is available as a free download. It is one of the best video games I have ever played and I fully recommend it.
community seems to strongly disagree with this kind of bullshit. so WG
gonna implement it exactle this way
Time for a revolution against WG system!
dont see why everyone is surprised of those greedy russian fucks
THIS GAME SUCKS P2WIN
I think the 2% bonus is hardly the biggest problem with pay to win issues.
Gold spamming is far worse.
Another thing to take a look at is gold as reward for missions. It may
sound as a benefit, but as you see, you will be intended to buy stuff for
it which is necessary, which means you will be forced to buy it or not be
able to get enough of it to make a difference…
I think this is simply ridicolous.. I mean its way to expensive to start
off, and then it doesnt even make sense because they are meant to be
cosmetics, but now you wont even choose the ones you think look the best
because you want the best bonus instead. And what happens to the tanks you
already have emblems and insciptions on? If the bonus isnt the one you want
on them you will need to change and your previously bought
emblems/inscriptions will be trash… And just as QB says you need to buy
the same emblems/inscriptions for every single tank so this will mean tens
of thousands in gold for someone with 50+ tanks in their garage.. And on
top of all that it isnt even balanced?
MOST. GREADY. MOVE. I’VE. EVER. SEEN.
I totally agree with you review of this new system.
I completely agree. I’m one of the people fortunate enough to have enough
to invest some money in this game every month and I could handle the gold
price, but I’m feeling like a minority here, or at least as a lucky 50 % of
the players. But WG’s neverending greed wouldn’t surprise me if the system
stays like this.
Now, I wonder – what will happen to the occasional camo/emblem/inscription
discounts? Will they still be around? That would help a bit, but it
wouldn’t solve the pay to win factor in this game…
get new features for your crew. give us money!
Pay to win has come
Thanks a lot for putting yourself out there and not being sell-out, I think
that the decals should be purely aesthetic. They completely screwed up the
balance too, like you said some tanks don’t have 2 emblem slots. I
currently have a few inscriptions and emblems on tanks that I love to play,
I picked out the stuff because I think it looked cool and unique not
because of some bonus that everybody will now use. The 3% camo makes a
small difference, while this is enormous.
Personally I think this is their strategy, 1: force players to advance more
slowly in the game through credit expenses, keep them playing longer. 2:
introduce another randomized factor, to keep people coming back to see if
they can maybe do better just one more time. If you have the potential for
loaders suddenly increasing skill by 12% that’s nuts, completely
unpredictable.
I think Wargaming is trying to squeeze every cent they can out of their
players before AW takes them all. This system is both pay to win, and will
create an even larger gap between casual players and serious players unless
they just throw money at WG. Blatant money-grabbing.
Money. Hungry. Pay-to-win. Bastards.
I have been playing WoT since 2011… I remember when they gave us 250 gold
a day, just for logging in… Oh times have changed…
pay 2 win XD
uninstalled
Well said, Mr. QB, WG is start to milk players in their games. Start from
package sell only new premium tanks/ships, to this f**ked up pay to win
camo/emblem system. And also they are teasing people for years and
Chieftain Mk6 will never come. WoT and WoWs will never back to a “player
based game” IMO, they are going fro the money ripping mobil game way.
This is ridiculous.
This displeases me, all of my premiums have inscriptions because I name
them, none of them share inscriptions and each name is picked based on the
nature of each tank, now I have have the issue where I’m going to be
getting random bonuses that don’t reflect my vehicles.
I might have been less “oh fuck off” with this if I could chose whatever I
liked, not what wargaming likes. Now we will have the same emblems and
insignias for every green or better players out there. Bye bye diversity.
I spend far to much gold on this game, but this is not something I will pay
for. The few tanks that have insignias will keep what they have, bonuses be
dammed. Utter reatdation.
My thoughts on these new changes are that it does make the game a lot more
pay to win. One other way that Wargaming can somewhat fix this would be to
greatly decrease the rental price if they do not give an out right way to
buy those emblems and inscriptions with credits. They also then need to
re-balance some premium tanks that can’t get those inscriptions or emblems,
because it would be unfair to those people if they can’t have the same
number as everyone else. I would like for them to get ride of this idea
totally because it would be like Wargaming going back to have premium ammo
being only paid for by gold. It would be going back to the bad old days.
Thank you very much for this video QB. In my opinion you are right with
your opinion and its another disadvantage for people like me who havn’t
gold and a premium account. It would be nice if other youtubers would do
the same video to pressure WG a bit.
Thank you very much for this video QB. In my opinion you are right with
your opinion and its another disadvantage for people like me who havn’t
gold and a premium account. It would be nice if other youtubers would do
the same video to pressure WG a bit. I hope this will be changed and thank
you very much for your videos. I really enjoy them and hope you keep doing
this for a long time.
Pay to win. Coming to your game soon!
WG spent a tonne of money on wowp and wows. Wowp is a fail while wows just
doesnt earn money for them yet. Im sure the company owners want theirs
money on every 1/4 year. WoT is the only product they can milk. Sad story
:(
I would be ok with this if and only if:
There would be a credits –> Full time, no rental option.
Or: Pay with gold and get it for all your tanks.
Yeah f@&k u war gaming u horrible game designers remove arty and make the
game balanced
10.0 Rubicon aka p2w patch
Je suis tout a fait d’accord avec toi ! ils devrait permettre de les
acheter avec des credits pour toujours et les mettre pour tous les tanks si
on les achete une fois
I’ve been playing WoT since Alpha and quite regularly. Was a real big fan.
But the last few months I’m getting frustrated beacuse there is no real
improvement to the game, or at least changes for the arty and randomness.
So I’ve been playing a lot less WoT until they fix some basics.
The damned overpriced and bloated ‘specials’ in the Premium shop have
stopped me spending money already!
WG keeps me as a player for now, for I’m (still) liking WoWs. But AW is
pulling me in strong!
This pay to win change, could kill the game for me. Especially if tyhey
dont fix the damn game.
Bert the Avenger, the FV304, got that nickname from the emblems
Circonflexes used on his.
That kind of thing will never happen again when all “competitive” players
will tend to use the same emblems on the same vehicles.
Normally people only tend to add emblems to the tanks they want to keep.
This move makes the buying of emblems almost mandatory if you are a
competitive player.
The bonuses to emblems, while good in theory, in practice it will remove
any feeling of individuality and any feeling of oneness with the tank.
Well it’s only 4%, make only a small difference in normal PvP. But i have
to agree it’s pay to win. Like in the past with the gold shells. I think WG
has to do other things to make more profits. They should implement more
content into their game, so AW has a harder time. This makes it just easer
for AW. I played WoT since the closed Beta, but right now AW is more fun to
me. Just a faster and more enjoyable gameplay, with no pay to win.
You EXACTLY hit the point, QB.
Noone will invest this ridiculous amount of credits every month in every
tank he plays. Lets face it: if im playing 20 of my 80 Tanks in the garage
actively, i will have to either invest about 12k gold (TWELVE!!) or 1
million Credits every Month in order not to have a disadvantage.
I would be fine with the system, if emblems for credits would be permanent
as they are when paid with gold. Maybe even, when they raise the credit
price by 100% for permanent bonus (e.g. as additional option).
I really appreciate your try to use your influence on WG in order to change
this unfair system, QB. I LIKE!
I think same as you that WG has to change this the way you suggest or
cancel it.
definitely not worth it, would rather use gold to convert xp and unlock new
tanks
Thank you QB for your honest video, i appreciate that you are brave enough
to criticize WG when they try to implement such changes. Sadly WoT is more
and more seems to be a PAY TO WIN game. :/
Pay for win, just like usually.
Hey qb,
in the last few weeks i got angry at wargaming for several reasons:
*when i noticed that they werent going to implement the m56 in the
ingame-shop (50 €??? srsly??)
*and now that they make the game even more pay-to-win
i dont know why wg is trying to rip us (on the eu server) off. but then
again, i hardly ever see those premium tanks they recently introduced so i
really hope the lack of money they earned with them is going to give them
sth. to chew on.
i totally agree with you
Simple solutions to this:
1. Make it so all emblems/inscriptions have the 1% boost instead of having
different effects.
2. Let players spend the same cost for a “blank” emblem, and allow up to 4
to be purchased for all vehicles, including those that dont have 4
emblem/inscription slots. This solves your Comet problem. Letting you get
the benefit, without having to retexture/remodel the tanks to support 4
emblems as well as allowing you to keep the default appearance if you
prefer it.
3.Allow players to pay credits at a reasonable price to keep the
emblems/inscriptions permanently on the tank.
If someone here is active in the RU community, could you maybe share these
points there since I doubt many players in the RU community would have
thought of these solutions, and the RU community is where Wargaming
listens. It’ll be a cold day in hell before the Feedback/Suggestions thread
on the NA or EU forums will influence the Wargaming home office.
I do strongly hope that if this is apied there will be an ‘all your base
are belong to us’ inscription for japanesr tanks.
Also, shame on you WG
I agree with you quickybaby, this is absolutely ridiculous… and to
expensive! I can’t buy all this for a little bit more camo rating… nope
that’s not going to happen… if Wargaming want that people buy these extra
emblems they need to make it more effective and less expensive
This is a total dick move by WG.
It would cost me around 82 500 gold to apply all those emblems and I dont
even wanna think of how much credits it would cost. I have 275 tanks in
garage, luckily i already have some emblems on my tanks. WG really need to
change this 540k credits and after a month its gone. Thats what I call
greedy wg. i have camo on all my 275 tanks. Thanks for a good video
Quickybaby.
fuck wargaming and their pay to win game. instead of thinking of ways in
how to suck more money from the users they could actually do something
useful and change that retarded and bugged physics engine in which a 30-40
ton tank can get stuck in a tiny piece of map because that’s totally
realistic. who hasn’t seen a tank which can get stuck on a tiny strip of
dirt or some little boulders. i really hope that armored warfare shatters
this retarded pay to win game and they start thinking customer-way instead
of let’s make more profit from everything kinda way. also..artillery is
totally balanced, because who the fuck needs armor when you have artillery
who spams HE or premium HE and one-shots an E 75 or a T110 E5. 10/10 WG
with all these “balanced” patches…. *slow clap*
I think they should keep the rental system for a month, but give it the
price of renting it a week as an example. Because when I’m grinding
through, for instance, tier 5 or 6 Light tanks, I want them to have camo,
but I don’t need it for ever, because within a month I will have sold them
again.
But the system they’re trying to introduce now is indeed rather unfair for
the players who don’t spend money on WoT.
I think if you want to spend money/credits/gold to make your tanks better,
players should just go with premium consumables or equipment.
I like to make my tanks personal through flags that show my heritage and
inscriptions that kind of roleplay the tanks I want to keep forever. Having
all of my 10’s 8’s and 6’s pretty much done already this will be an
astronomical amount of gold again out of me. Not the happiest with this
change, but as I am so invested I will just have to suck it up and drive
on.
Another ****
I wish war gaming would just listen to their player base… They just keep
ignoring issues and trying to come up with solutions in their own and only
making it worse…
I agree with quicky !
guys you forgot about the new arty system wich WG will add to the game. It
will fo less damage but it will kill all of ur crew so…….think how they
are going to earn even more money. It is simple: first implement that in
the game and when arty hits lets say you u have knocked out gunner and
driver and you are in a LT. You will have to use premium consumables so you
can be competitive again in game. Do u understand where am i going !!!!
A good use for the tiger emblem would be with the KV2, I have a thing for
getting the rate of fire on my KV2 as fast as I can, and normally a KV2s
reload is about 20 seconds, and as for the crit part, a KV2 not getting a
bruiser medal is unusual.
I agree! This is looking more pay to win than ever!
it’s about money only
I have to agree with what you had to say regarding the emblems. Yes they
should make the pay credits for the upgrade permanent, even if it means an
increase in the initial cost, or let them be mission achievable, either
works. The whole pay to play is offensive, and likely to cost them long
term in player retention.
If implemented this new feature will make the game even more unbalanced. At
the moment the players who are playing in the best clans can afford a lot
more than the other players. But not all players in the EU servers for
example can play in the best clans. The same is for the wallet players.
They can afford to pay for these things. I was thinking to come back in the
game but…if they do this – no thanks. So im totally agree with you.
Agreed, credit or gold is fair – but let you re-choose you existing or be
able to sell for same credit value..
well said QB. while i had no issue purchasing camo for my tier 10 tanks as
i liked the way it made my tanks look i have a major issue with the emblem
and inscription changes. first of all they are barely noticeable, so why
would i bother spending my hard earned money on them? you could argue that
you can use credits but i disagree. i have about 5 tier 8 premiums i use
regularly with little to no premium ammo and i still have issue getting
enough credits for the tank lines im grinding and equipment for those
tanks. how would i be able to afford to equip my ~20 tanks i will be
keeping indeffinately with emblems/inscriptions? also i feel the camo
bonuses on camoflauge were so minimal it was barely noticed. a 4% buff to
crew skills is massive however, and as you said puts everybody who doesnt
use this system at a disadvantage.
ive sunk more money then i like to admit on this game, but im not
supporting this. all its doing is pushing me further to armored warfare.
why i cant play world of tanks
I have never posted any comment till now, but THIS is too crazy. I
completely agree with you QB, this is outrageous.
quickybaby speaks for those less fortunate and who can’t afford gold, this
would totally make this game pay to win and I would completely hate it, I
started playing because it wasn’t a pay to win game. I really hope these
changes won’t be put in the game
They have a “God save the queen” one, but they also have a “God save the
king” one for the British tanks. Are they expecting the queen to die soon
and they won’t have to change the word queen to king
Boooooo Wargaming!!
Well QB, I can’t say I “enjoyed” this video as that would be like enjoying
a weather report promissing an entire weak of heavy rain…
Sadly this is just further proof of WG getting even more greedy.
Still, thank you for bringing the point up and using your status to take a
stand against it. Me? I think I’l be playing some more AW today…
If wg implements this in the game it would have been a pay2win game. This
is a rubish move of WG.
No hidden bonuses is way better way anyway :-)
QB you hit the nail on the head. thank you. its one of the many reasons i
rarely play anymore. my first 2yrs i payed for premium and camo perks and
other gold based perks just to see wargaming mine me for more money. nbw i
disabled and can no longer afford any of it and quickly feel behind on my
tanks power curve in relation to those who spend hundreds if not thousands
of dollars on the game.
You are damn right QB ! Thanks for the rant !
it is a pay2win move
Bullshit!
Spot on Qbaby, spot on. Between Warthunder, World of tanks, World of
Warships and Armored warfare, WOT is by far the most complex BUT also the
most ekspensive. Its a daunting and frustating task to be new to WOT.
Between learning a map and were and how to shoot, you also have to deal
with being in game 90% of the time where you can do very little to influens
the outcome.I just startet World of warships 2 days ago, after one day I
got first place in a match. I have played WOT for a about 12 weeks and only
seldom have I been near top 5. Im really not weining that Im shit at WOT.
Im complaining that it feels that you can pay to win. The question thets
pops up alot in WOT: Lets say I was in a 1 to 1 with a guy with the same
tank, He one shots me. How much was that down to skill and how much was
thet due to the guy willing paying more Money than me???
money money money money
In some missions were be available to earn an infinite supply of flags
(like Brazilian, Mexican etc.).When the 10.0 comes, will be this supply
infinite?
Completely agree with everything he said. This is a FREE TO PLAY game. And
although it is possible to purchase this kind of rented bonus on every tank
for every month without using gold, it would be impossible to keep up with
the amount credits this kind of investment demands without the use of a
premium account and premium tanks! Which defeats the purpose of a free to
play game!
Pay 2 win
thanks for speaking up for us!
agree with QB.
I’m glad I switched to AW long time ago.
Not only is this system totally unfair and pay to win, its also so ugly and
messy. Come on I am pretty sure they could have given us a different
customisation system which is fair and also not so fkn ugly. If they really
want ideas I’d suggest they install AW and loook at modifications. This
system might just be the last straw which broke the camels back, and push
more players away from WoT.
World of Pay to Win
i think, the more welcomed approach for this will be as follows:
all emblems and inscriptions come for free.
the emblems slots and inscriptions slots on the other hand, can only be
unlocked by gold or credits
so i you truly love one of you tanks and want to invest a little more to
see it do better in games, you will still have the beautiful appearance and
actual crew skill bonus while WG will have the money they want. and the
problems QB mentioned in the video wont be there no more.
Wow, QB having a go at WG. I’m with you, this is another way to increase WG
profits.
If this is how this game is going to develop then I might as well go back
to playing cs:go and (shivers) minecraft.
WG are cunts man, everybody knows it. They have such a good idea for a
game, then make it into a broken, money whoring pos. To AW plebs!
Seriously, the only reason one wouldn’t like AW as much is because…
1. You’ve already grinded to tier 10 in several tanks and invested a lot of
time in it
2. You just prefer the era of the tanks
reasons why AW is better?
1. Better devs – they actually listen to the community
2. More focus on balanced vehicles (light tanks, td’s and arty actually
serve a purpose)
3. no premium ammo unbalanced bs
4. arty isn’t a cunt machine that shits on you every time you make an
aggressive play
5. It doesn’t cost fuck all to grind anything, in fact, you could probably
quite easily play the game for free
and I do hope their plans for the future such as t11+ tanks are no gold
tanks….
Fair?….nope, it’s all about separation of you from your money. How dos
wot do it………like this shit. Played for 5 years, was a good run, but
This seems like the death spiral of this game.
There are already droves of people leaving this game for Armored Warfare (
on the NA server as far as I’m aware ) and in my opinion if this were to go
to the live server as is, Wargamming might as well just shut the servers
down. This new emblem system looks and feels like they put no thought into
it what so ever and just kinda plopped it into the game, it looks and feels
so unfinished and sloppy. I cant always afford to have a premium account
and its almost impossible with a standard account to make credits to
support my tier 10 vehicles, let alone to grind and unlock new high tier
vehicles. So now ill have to choose between buying a new tank or buying an
emblem or an inscription or camo!?!?!?! and if I choose to buy my new
vehicles instead of emblems, inscriptions, or camo, I’ll be at a
disadvantage to someone who has decided to spend more money
on acquiring gold or in game credits!!! This is a broken system and totally
deters most people from continuing to play the game or even starting into
the game. I love the game but if this goes live I think I will be done with
the game and I have invested a decent amount of my time and money into the
game and its a shame it may have to end like this but if Wargamming wants
to put this up as is they can enjoy there small tiny little community of
investors they will have left playing this game. ( this is all my opinion
of course )
I think like Wargaming should implement feature like this in the game. But
they shouldn’t force everybody to buy gold. For instance in my opinion many
players don’t even buy gold. I mean you can be competitive with buying
equipment with credits, can’t you? I totally agree with Quickybaby. You
should be able to buy the emblems and inscriptions with credits and keep
them forever. Also I’m interested to see if you’ll be able to win some of
them as a prize from missons. Do you guys agree?
Yeah earn them by doing 200,000 damage each day for 15 days. You will only
have 24 hours to get this 200,000 damage and it has to be done 15 times.
Now you can “earn” them.
Yeah WG is getting money grubbing. They recently said that there are too
many credits around in the game. This is how they plan to make people spend
them. It’s pay to win is what it is.
What made Wargaming decide to do this? Was anything asking for this?
yeah this sucks wargaming change this thing !!!! ur making it not fair!!
Have to agree with QB on this one. Free to play and Pay to Win confirmed.
Considering the previous bundles, WG only interested in money grabbing and
doesn’t give a flying f@ck about fixing/ improving anything else. After 22k
games, I’ll just give up. There are other game(s) out there that provide
less stressful gameplay, less toxic community and their similar priced
bundles have 4x the value in it if not more…. Well done WG, you did it
again.
i agree with you. i have some tanks with emblem and inscriptions I like. If
I need to pay for the skill, then they should me at least choose the emblem
I like…
What about country flags that were won during Country celebrations such as
Canada Day , 4th July U.S. , Basil , England , etc ? Already have a few .
Does the player get to use them as if bought with gold ?
WG trying to get into the territory of Gaijin. Bad WG! Bad!!!
I would like to put this out there as a note about WarGaming.
They are all human. Put all bias and humor aside, they are. I know everyone
that has watched this video wants more money, thats also a human thing to
do. This is another expected thing from WarGaming or any company in general
that sucks bills out of your wallet for gross profit, completely
justifiable, not necessarily morally correct depending on opinion, but
significant reason to their side for doing so.. aka “want”
I have always figured that the hidden variables on their games are rigged –
Conspiracy theory, certainly. Those variables are called RNG and can be
manipulated or controlled to make players spend real money on the game.
– Here is an example: You play the IS-3, you bounce off the front of a
O-Ho, you load gold. Now since you never want to spend money on a game, you
will lose credits and fall behind, financially, to your other clanmates and
friends therefore pushing you to buy credits in the gift shop. Fact?
Thats just dumb the pay to win is real… In my opinion emblems are not
fair… I dont play the game to bee pretty but i either play it to bee too
competitive. Yes, I have Ventilation etc. on many tanks but this gets too
pay to win if someone can have 12% better crew without playing the tank and
just paying for WG real money. Like I dont have the time to play that many
credits when I start grind credits I grind 100K a day well i could get the
credits but it would be that fun to just grind credits every month… ?
I’m thinking that emblems and inscriptions is going to be like keeping up
with the Joneses. You need it to stay competitive even if you dont like or
want it. Just glad to see that Armored Warfare is in open beta.
I think that this system is very interesting… But WG is being greedy
about it. It allows players who are competitive about the game add some
slightly unique characteristics to their tanks. Like if you want a faster
light tank, more accurate arty, higher view range on your TD, faster
loading times on your KV-2, etc. But it does kind of screw over the players
who customize their tanks and also play competitively.
I wonder how much “Bert” inscription would boost the performance..?
I like it, gives me a reason to make my tanks look good, I think it would
be better if they implemented it with a permanent credit purchase and a
gold purchase but knock the price down a bit to like 10 or 20 gold to still
have some money making potential to the system, wouldn’t be much too
different from the gold ammo pricing but still not be pay to win
This is a f***ng shit move of Wargaming… I will stop playing after that
Patch and until it is changed!
F**ing greedy b**ches!!!!
I think everyone is forgetting one basic thing, economics. This is a
Russian game and they want money from around the world. Great way for them
to take our finances. Play for free are you kidding me?
I wholly agree QB — this is ridiculous. Complicated, aesthetically ugly
(inscriptions/badges), and a pure money grab by WG. Why not just add
another equipment slot, add a couple additional pieces of equipment to buy,
and let us spend credits on that? Either their business model is
failing (which I would find hard to fathom, especially with all the
advertising and gimmicks) or they’ve turned into cash hoarders. Either
way, this might be what drives me away from WoT. And I’ll wager I won’t be
alone in my exodus.
I disagree with this money grab by WG. Moreover, it is extremely poorly
timed with AW In open beta.
Those bonuses are so small that by the time you reach the final tier and
unlock the last tanks it isn’t even going to matter. Grinding at that point
isn’t a problem as there are no other expenses. But of course, quickbaby
sits on a ton of gold and won’t even bother to do the math to see how
stupid his complaints sound.
I have been a consistent premium account WoT player since patch
7.something. I have gold camo on all my favourite tanks. But this new
system? I won’t be renewing my premium account. I will be playing more AW.
Best rant I’ve ever heard, love this so much qb, as someone who doesn’t
like to spend gold on in-game items but is almost forced to, to keep up my
game, I find this quite disappointing.
They could’ve made these emblems decent easily without breaking them.
Just give them XP multipliers (along with the camo) or even credit
multipliers (albeit small ones) to ease grinds, make the game more
economical for some people, while keeping the emblem perks COMPLETELY out
of the actual gameplay, only dealing with what’s happening with your own
garage, your XP grinds and your own credit balance.
WG’s business model is made for one thing only and that’s to make money,
how they do it seems close to irrelevant. No new premium tanks without
unnecessary bundles (Scorpion, I’m looking at you) or the fact that you
need gold for free XP, or the fact that gold can influence your silver
economy at all.
What’s P2W about WoT:
Gold ammo when bought with gold – no, it isn’t P2W with credits because you
can’t throw your wallet at the screen for silver in the same way
Converting gold to credits – this enables a playstyle that isn’t credit
generating and hence you can spam gold without worries (apparently this is
very popular, I don’t know why honestly. I’m in S3AL on the EU server and
this never happens there)
Free XP without a silver option – while this is the sole purpose of gold of
simplifying and removing certain aspects of the game (stock grinds,
skipping bad tanks etc), it’s still P2W because of the lack of a
non-buyable option since we all know earning free xp manually takes, well,
ages.
100% crew for gold – this is all about competitiveness, because if you
don’t you’re stuck at 90% at best and need to spend time at a disadvantage
to gain level ground.
and probably the absolutely most of P2W of all, and so very overlooked
because of how cheap it is:
Demounting equipment. 10 gold can be 300k gold. that course rate is
ridiculous.
34 people work for wargaming
I cannot put swear words into a public chat and I wouldn’t even put swear
words into a private chat. So all a I can say is a quote: There are over
1,000,000 words in the English language, but I could never string enough of
them together to explain just how much I want to hit you across the face
with a chair.
so now people will complain about that ur usin these things on ur tank….
and that ur also usin gold… _´
I guess WoT is getting from Bad to Worse. Leaning towards pay 2 win >_<.
One thing I quite liked about this game was that the longer you played the
more you learnt about how the different tanks worked – reload times, turret
traverse, speed etc. This encouraged you to invest time into it as you got
something out of it that could potentially give you an advantage. Now those
that can afford to pay the money can make their tank so unpredictable to
judge – there’s no skill in knowing a reload time if it can be adjusted so
much by gold. So what will happen – especially on the SEA server where they
allow basic cheating – is that more and more people will use illegal mods
like warpack to know what everyone can do and protect their investment.
It’s bullshit and making this supposed simulation game into an arcade
blast-fest which isn’t what many people who do play this game want.
And… why not let the player choose which bonus they want applied
to/associated with the emblem? WHY has WG preselected and assigned certain
bonuses to specific emblems?!? Redonkulous!!!
150 GOLD for each emblem and inscriptions CRAZY, but you cannot equip the
same amount to certain vehicles ?? That is completely unfair
I agree QB it is seeming like a pay to win game
Totally agree with you QB. That’s insane to pay over a half a million
credits to get the bonus for a single tank just for one month. It’d ok to
pay it once to get ’em forever. Anyway that’s a silly move for WG if they
decide to keep it that way.
I wish I had seen this video a week ago. I feel very ripped off. Last
weekend on the North America server there was a 1/2 price sale for
camouflage, emblems and inscriptions. I only have a few tanks so I bought
with gold the same two emblems and two inscriptions for all of my tanks so
that my “army” would be uniform (they are all Soviet). I did not realize
that the same emblem and slogan could be used twice and double the effects.
More importantly, I did not realize that each emblem and slogan provided a
specific bonus. Consequently, I wasted a lot of gold and am sure that I
will not get the bonuses that I was trying to obtain. This new system
stinks.
I am GLAD you finally called out WG for their pay-to-win schemes. With all
the glaring, serious flaws this game has – horrifically broken RNG,
rediculous MM, etc – to drop this on top of it is, as you said, WG having a
laugh at our expense.
Sad thing is, the tanks I decide to keep permanently already have perm
camo, perm Canadian flags and perm Hunter emblems on them where applicable.
So for me, I will be getting a lot of bonuses for default anyway – but I
freely admit I have spent way, WAY too much on this game.
Love it. Love the honesty here QB. Yup, no other way of looking at it other
than: “They are having a laugh!” and enjoying the money coming in.
Tasteless.
I’m amazed this is the first time you notice how scummy this company is.
They have been milking money from their customers for ages now, while
totally disrespecting and disregarding their wishes and hopes. As an
example, ever tried to submit a ticked about *anything* game related (not
bills or real money) to them? you’ll get one of the three copy-pasted
message. Another example is the EU game forum -for every announcement they
make it’s absolutely blasted with negative rep and many justified posts
from unhappy players -on many threads, not even 1 satisfied or positive
customer. The company response? None… they don’t read it… The
moderators step in from time to time to censor certain… words… because
that is what they are paid to do. But never a single person from the tech
or dev team comes to read the crap players say there.
I definitely agree with what QuickyBaby said. I personally don’t think they
should even consider adding these bonuses to the inscriptions and emblems
because it doesn’t make any sense that it should boost your tanks
performance. Does a car go faster because it’s the color red? no. World of
Tanks is getting further and further into a hole that they are digging
themselves into with ideas such as this inscription and emblem, free
rentals for once rare vehicles that they keep putting on the market, as
well as overpricing said vehicles with their ridiculous bundles. Back to
the point of the video, why implement some bonus that is targeted for more
experienced players. There is a big percent of the community that simply
can’t afford gold for this bonus or don’t have premium tanks to grind out
any credits so they can rent this bonus for a month and spend away another
hard earned amount of credits just to keep up with “more experienced
players.” I hope Wargaming find some other route.
ARE THEY ADDING A CANADIAN ARMOURED EMBLEM TO THE EMBLEMS CUZ THAT WOULD BE
AWESOME
Everybody here is talking about the numbers of how many credits you need to
rent. Who in the world only uses one tank per month? Just for stronghold
battles, you’re going to want about a dozen vehicles fully upgraded (yes
emblems are now upgrades). 18 k every day of your life if you want to play
World of Tanks? Ha! Try over 200k every day, every drop of it evaporating
into nothing permanent, BTW.
Hey quickybaby!
Are you going to continue your map tactics videos?, it would be great if
you could.
I guess i don’t care because WG destroyed my motivation on WoT with that
missions which required a platoon… so ty for that.
Ohh btw jeah the prices are redonciolous.
I think that the buffed crew skills with emblems is a good idea, but I do
agree with you that war-gaming is completely unreasonable by
making us either pay gold or spend huge amounts of silver every month to
have the new crew skills. also, I 100% agree that it is unfair to let some
tanks have more emblems than others. I think it would be fantastic if
war-gaming would have us earn the camo and emblems in the game by doing
missions or other challenges.
this is why I don’t play WOT anymore its a pay to win game! Gold digging
company
I really dont like inscriptions and emblems giving specific crew skill
bonuses since it will be about having the best inscription not the coolest
or funniest one you like :/
I really wish I could thumbs up this video harder. The game became pay to
win when they introduced the Cromwell B, ISU-122S, and IS-2. However, if
these changes occur, I will refuse to spend any more money on any Wargaming
title.
il stop playing it and play armor warfare I don’t send money on a game
I just came here for the comments
Love the fact that you speak your mind about these things.
I do completely agree with you, but to be fair, this is only one of the few
fuck ups WG have done lately. I was hoping that with the release of AW,
they would start getting intimidated, but somehow, they keep doing shit
like this and it pisses a lot of people off.
They should have used this “rubicon” opportunity to fix certain things in
their game (for example mm that tends to give one team more top tier tanks
than the other for no reason), and to get rid of their already
pay-to-win-reputation, and instead, they come up with shit like this? It´s
so painful to see when a company cares so little about their
customers/product.
I dont like sight it might become p2win as you mentioned then again if they
implement missions for emblems if they gona be 7 day it still might be not
enough as lot of people dont play world of tanks as much. I got few
guilde’s who can play 4-5 matches a day at best but if they will be
pernament that might be diffrent. Also if those missions for those will be
like multi part with like 35k dmg done /120 kills etc not every one will be
able to get it since not every one spends so much time in a game as they
got their familys to attend to. Well time will only show. Ps +2% crew skill
affects commander so loader gets +2% and extra from commanders 2% bonus
like always small thing but still there.
this is more pay 2 win bs but it does seem balanced
“愚公移山“ LOL
Would like to see what the translation for that would be ^^
9:43 IT’S THE RETURN OF COMMANDER BALLS!!! Does anyone remember that video?
It’s a rip off, This is the sort of thing that would make me consider
playing Armoured Warfare instead.
Not to mention my camo isn’t worth 5% any more since 8.6. I would like
someone to do a camo test to see how much difference camo makes.
Class Action….meaning everyone will file suit…with their wallets and
leave. FFS 2%????
Emblems and inscriptions shouldn’t do anything… Camo has a purpose. But
inscriptions and emblems don’t. And I agree with what you said. This is pay
to win BS that needs to go.
WG has pretty much made WoT pay to win with this. Either pay money
or pay insane amounts of time, and when time is money… GG WG.
I wish the permanent camo costed credits… I want my tanks to look as sexy
as possible, but I can’t because I don’t have the money to do it.
Fully agree with every point :)
Wargaming Sucks so hard
Compared to camoboni premiumammo is a much higher pay-to win button in the
game. Personally i hate all pay-to -win elements in the game. If WG wnats
to have premiumammo/boni in the game they should make them very affordable
for non paying players. Only visual things without any boni should be
gold-only .
Wargaming is killing this game, fuck you Wargaming
Nice to see you being critical where it’s due. The overwhelming amount of
likes on your video is quite telling of the playerbase’s attitude toward
this! I guess they’re trying to do something like the signals from WOWS…
except you simply get those by playing well/getting lucky, and they’re
pleasant to get as momentos of past moments. It bothers me that certain
emblems give certain bonuses, when they’ve been a purely aesthetic venture
in the past; I’d much rather have the option of whatever emblem I like the
look of along with what statistical bonus appeals to my tank’s needs. But,
really, I’d rather just keep the default national symbols since they
generally look right to me.
I think this is absolutely shocking, are WOT trying to lose players to
Armoured Warfare….? I wont be buying any of the camo etc as if I buy
premium that’s plenty. at last with Premium it is on WOT and WOW
Thanx QB, love your opinion and the way you put it out. respect :)
All this bitching about having to pay for a bonus is getting really sad.
First off no-one is forced to pay anything – *EVER*. Second, how soon
people forget about all the free stuff WG gives us in the various missions,
events competitions and whatnot (not to mention the regular discounts).
Let’s look at an example shall we? Take Climbing The Ladder mission 4 for
example – the reward is 3 each of Automatic Fire Extinguisher, Large First
Aid Kit and Large Repair Kit. Those are premium consumables, *PREMIUM*.
WG are giving us 180,000 credits or *450 gold* worth of stuff for
completing something we would do anyway in the course of our playing.
And what are the conditions I hear you ask? Win 20 battles……that’s it, *win
20 times*.
Permanent inscriptions/camo/markings are just that – *permanent*. Drive
away no more to pay. no subscriptions, done and dusted.
At least now the inscriptions/camo/markings will have meaning other than
pretty-fication of your chosen tank/s. Eve Online has ingame stuff to
customize your character that is far from cheap and will most likely *NOT*
be seen by anyone other than the character’s owner, and Eve is subscription
based *AND* you still pay if you don’t play, if you don’t your skill
training stops.
WG is a business that is there to make money first and foremost. How many
play WoT for free never paying a single, solitary cent? I’d bet good money
there are far more than we think (just look at the up/down votes for an
idea on that). If WG have a system in place that makes money from those
that are *willing* or *want* to pay then I see no issue with that.
WG is just craving for more cash,and how do they do it?!Introducing “pay
for skill(amblem)”method.WG is also doing one very bad thing,and that is
leveling rich newbies with old players who invested their time and effort
in grinding skills-perks.Warships,for example,have much more fair system
that gives you flags-bonuses if you finish some ingame missons and that
forces players to evolve and advance in overall game understanding.WoT
proposed system is pure richkids pissing over the poor!
this emblem system suck…!! ok I want to have Rudy emblems on my tank,
because thats look cool!…oh its a radio operator bonus!!fuck that then,
lets buy
something that I dont like….yeah thats better now I have a loader bonus!
GG Wg..?
I know quite often on the NA server we’d have mini-missions to let you earn
certain country flags for easy mode conditions ( like kill x amount of
tanks in match) for free. If there was a way to get something like a free
emblem/inscription token for doing similar easy mode conditions, then it
would serve its purpose a lot better instead of this P2W nonsense.
just WG adding more broken shit instead of fixing current broken shit.
Let’s be realistic. The advantageous gains, are not by any means, small
margin.
Even if WG make the cosmetics purchase permanent, push it further : able to
apply any number of tanks, it’s still greed-originated, money grabbing
Pay-to-win system.
Player are expected to spend a certain amount of gold/money in order to
stay competitive on equal ground.
At that point, the free-to-play game lose the fair play tag, the very core
element that help propel WoT to it’s current status.
Of course, WG’s greed amplify by factor of huge magnitude, it’s showing by
making the system strictly individual tank basis.
Plus the fact that credits/silvers purchase have additional rental period.
This further put non-paying players, or even regular players that paying
monthly fee and occasionally spend some golds, in disadvantageous position.
*Shamefur dispray, WG.*
Gaijin(Wargaming’s one competetor) Just made a fatal mistake with the BR
changes some weeks ago, and now WG does something similar shit. But why? To
force players to pay and BE better compared to those who does not invest
money in the game.
I’m glad I skipped this game.
they should invent something like writing your own inscription..
I really hope this is not how the game will be now 🙁 I am 15 I don’t want
to buy your gold
To be honest I’ve been drifting away from the game for a while, I used to
play almost daily but now it’s once or twice a month if at all. Between the
constant unchecked power creep, the cycle of new tank lines with clearly OP
tanks that are “working as intended” until people stop paying gold to get
to them (then they nerf the hell out of them), the ridicules increase in
the price of premium tanks and now crap like this emblem system I can’t be
bothered.
T10 tanks will be unplayable once this comes into being, even with premium
it’s easy to lose money playing them so adding another 500k per emblem just
to be on an even footing with other players is ridicules. Clearly a cash
grab and clearly aimed at T10 players and seal clubbers.
im 21 and have a job but i don’t think this change should go though i dont
buy anything in this game and already have a hard time getting credits bo
am i going to spend money on this so i can have the same chance to be as
good as some one els. i already feel like all the people who but gold with
money are bad enough but if it was 500m to keep all of it for ever i would
like that
I agree to !!! to must……!!!
I left my last long term game (7 yrs) due to their greed and going Pay to
Win.
I agree 100%. This is a giant steaming pile of pay to win crap. Is this
really the time to for this, when Armored Warfare is in open beta for
everyone to play???
Sounds like Russia is in a land grab. As well as a ( GOLD ) grab…
P2w bullshit
Here here – this looks like an attempt to increase the cost of the game in
gold to those heavily invested in it. Of course it will significantly
discourage new players who will be short on credits and work out it will
cost them a fortune to invest in high tier playing. Running without a
premium account is already a grind for credits. This may be enough to
finally put me off playing if it comes out in the currently proposed
format.
totally agree with you there quickybaby this seems a bad move but how long
before world of warships and world of warplanes follow suit ?
This is nothing more than Armored Warfare and that’s it. The system they
have is very, very similar to this. Talk about copy cat crap? This is it.
this is yet another reason why were gaming has lost me as a player. I quit
playing their game to patches back because I saw stupid stuff like this
coming on. Modern warfare here I come!
12:40 – great word QB 🙂 i 100% agree with you in every single point,
literally
That’s not fair at all I know wargaming is a company and needs to make
Money but as you said it’ll be a more like pay to win I play on Xbox and
its all very even playing the game is how you get better and I don’t invest
a lot of money in the game because I Don’t have it and I’m a good player
with a 51% win rating and I want to get even better but now people who are
essentially richer than me will have an advantage over me it’s not a very
smart move by wargaming
Armored Warfare only pinched Waraming thick skin’s with the arty… Not
even the Free Garage slots… or the better everything… Like AW right
have no signs of Pay to Win
World of tanks is a pay to win game now
I’m one of those players that always buys gold camo, inscriptions, and
emblems for my tanks – and with over 100 tanks or so, it’s a lot of gold
spent. And I don’t want to sound hypocritical when I say this, but this
whole move is really shitty. I’m sure I’ll benefit from the gold I’ve spent
now, but that’s NOT why I spent the gold! I spent it – because I wanted to
make my tank look special. Yes, there is a camo bonus, but the inscriptions
and emblems were just for laughs. This is a terrible, terrible moneygrab.
Honestly – all of those camo patterns, emblems, and inscriptions should
have been free in the first place. Or, in the alternative, emblems and
inscriptions free for premium account holders (when they were purely
cosmetic).
This game has always struggled with the P2W issue. Premium rounds were bad
when they were only available for gold, and then somehow became a WORSE
problem when you could buy them for credits!
I see a ridiculous potential for abuse, where tanks that are mildly OP due
to a certain characteristic all of a sudden become ridiculously OP because
of emblem stacking…that’s about as P2W as it gets, I’m afraid. Poor, poor
move by Wargaming.
Give these pixels away for free. They are literally nothing. I didn’t mind
paying for them to set my tank’s appearance apart…well, and having “Snow
Leopard” plastered all over the side of my KV5 was always funny to me – but
this type of “OP stack by 1000 cuts” is totally ridiculous.
What’s even worse is that it is going to benefit the best players more than
the average ones, because they will be able to use those extra edges more
effectively. The bads…well, this is just stealing their money, plain and
simple. Will I keep buying them? It’s hard to say, since before it was a
matter of taste, whereas now it’s a matter of efficient minmaxing.
Bollocks.
Thieves from WARGAMING,make an PVE mode to relax some people who are
playing this game,in PVP is so much anger and so many ”NO SOCIAL LIFE
PLAYERS”.You can’t enjoy the game when there are platoons with 3 players
above 60% WINRATE against you.
this will be the WORST patch in the history of WoT….
what a joke.
I’ve been playing and enjoying world of tanks for 2 years. Many updates
have changed the way the game is played, usually in a progressive manner. I
have purchased a premium account in order to accelerate my progress in the
game. This was good for a beginning player who would not necessarily earn
massive amounts of credits whilst playing and grinding. I have also
invested in premium tanks as i liked the potential to accelerate my crew
training (and credit earning potential).
However i have always been disappointed that the camouflage is available
for ‘credit limited 30days’ and free for all time with gold.
Giving the emblems additional powers seems ridiculous and is ridiculous.
I was disappointed that many of the newer premium tanks are only available
in package form. (i.e.: tank, 30days of premium and an amount of gold)
I do understand that wargaming is a business and needs to make a profit.
but really? Unless they make better gold bonuses for well played
games/missions then they will be losing faithful players like myself. Who
preferred the premium account subscription over gold investment.
The current potential of earning 30 gold a day is good. However for someone
like me who now gets to play only a couple of times a week that means i
have to play for nearly a month to get one emblem (assuming i always get
the gold) and nearly 4 months in order to earn enough gold to use
camouflage (summer winter and desert) … so yes thats nearly 5 or 6 months
of play for one tank! (assuming they don’t lower the ‘free’ gold earning
potential)
After investing over £160 in various ways (Premium tanks and time) far more
than i have ever spent in any other game EVER! I certainly won’t be
investing any more. and will probably begin to move away from the wargaming
brand.
A massive shame as i have found a vibrant and supportive gaming community.
It would be good to hear back what other gamers think about this and if
there is anyone who feels the same.
Thanks for keeping us informed Quickybaby, (great work from your favourite
twitch lurker i.e.: non-subscriber) i hope these messages get through to
the right people!
Peace and love community.
WG is so lame this time!!! we already have to spend gold to play a tier10
properly… world of tanks had already been much less attractive a couple
patches ago, forcing people to spend more gold in such a lame way is not
how you run a company i think
Now WoT turning Pay to Win?
I think wot is garbage and I also think the clowns at war gaming are
useless inbred shit bags.
WG is doing their level best to push their player base to Armored Warfare,
the only thing that will keep the WoT community where they are, is the
greater system requirements for AW.
@QuickyBabyTV I Strongly agree with you! I am just a 16 years old kid, it
is not likely i can buy millions of “GOLD” just to apply this on my tanks,
fair enough i might have some money that i can put in the game but not all
parents allow you to do that! So i strongly agree if i am spending half a
million worth of credits into 1 tanks just for camo and emblem i should
really be able to keep it.
Why not make some of these things additional items on the tanks so if you
keep playing the tank you can build enough XP to unlock them? That way the
tanks you use can have these items and it would be like a badge of honour
for those who’ve invested the time in that tank. Of course, these items
shouldn’t slow your progress towards the next tank. That’s slow enough as
it is.
Great move Wargaming…making a step towards being pay to win shortly after
Armoured Warfare went into open beta.
Was your marketing strategy created by monkeys???
Armored Warfare is better then WoT….
World of tanks has enough competionion against new similar games coming
out, why would they give their fans the finger with this pay2win
BS…..????
yes yes .. better to use this system to spend credits then spending them
for premium ammo
*Next*: equipment rental or pay us mooooooooooooooneeeeeeeeeeey (gold gold
gold gold gold gold gold gold)
Wargaming is jst getting greedy and are turning WoT into a pay to win game.
Time to start playing Armoured Warfare!
yeah QB, I agree with you.
Reasoning below
I’ve spent some gold on a very few tanks that I consider keepers – the
premiums of course, but also some others that I like … the AT2, the
Matilda, the TOG II, the KV2, the T-40 American TD, and the RAM II … not
too many more than that … the rest are likely to be sold when I move up
in the tiers … cost of slots gets too much, so, the same thing would
apply with this change on WG’s part … only I don’t think I would spend
for any of it anytime soon … especially not as a monthly rental
Thank you for using your voice to speak up for the rest of us. I know I
really appreciate it.
It was always Pay2Win game and the escalation of that started with
introduction of premium ammo for credits. If one want to use more premium
ammo which give better chances to penetrate (in most cases) one have to
spend huge amount of credits. And more credits can only be earned by having
premium tank or premium account. So it is not surprising WG had intdoruced
those stupid emblems and inscriptions. Those f**king “businessmen” from
Minsk are blinded with money and instead of improving game they just want
to sell more and more crap.
more of a rant video then a review
wot noticed their shitty emblems weren’t making them dump trucks full of
free money so ya. I swear this game is made by alcoholics
I 100% agree with you QuickyBaby this update is complete bullcrap for
everyone. As you said, i would at least have the emblems be a 1 time
purchase not this bull**** 30 day or 7 day period for half a million
credits. i really hope you and many others convince wg to change this. Best
of luck mate!
Funny that after reading a lot of these comments there’s plenty of people
here having doubts about the game as well. I for one am sick of the MM,
there’s nothing worse than getting into game after game of losses, I had a
6 week stretch of losing 80-85% of my games, and my stats dropped like a
lead balloon, and even statistically I should have won more games than I
did. WG had no interest in looking into it when I emailed them. But my
point is that I don’t feel like investing a lot of money into a game when I
feel the developers couldn’t care less about their customers!!
Toilet Tenk SU-101 only 1 emblem or inscription:(
WG should put a level system for each tank. As the personnal mission,
achievements, u can unlocks camouflage. then people will have to EARN that
camouflage bonus and other bonuses.
i have spent some much credits for these camouflage it could be great to
earned some perma camo
you should be able to buy m with gold and those bought with gold can be
used on all tanks without time limit.
the emblems bought with credits should be for 1 tank / 1 side but still no
time limit.
540.000 is what i make in 3 weeks without premium :/
dont think its any different to charging 200gld for 100% retrain of skills
or start with 100% crew
Totally balanced right?
So, since my tanks all have permanent inscriptions and emblems I felt
“nice” on them at the time, I’m going to have bonuses I don’t know if fits
my style of play… I really hope War gaming will give us who already paid
gold an opt-in to change them instead to have to pay again for new ones
which have the “right” bonus
money sluts. i agree that they have to make some money but this is very
very close to topping the greedy cake. a couple more changes and people are
going give up WOT for good…
WG sucks. They will never get any money from me ever again after NOT
putting Chieftain in the game and these bloody emblems.
100% Agree. Shame on Wargaming one more time!
Wargaming should make so you have earn these “bonuses.” Like in War Thunder
you have to kill a certain amount of tanks so be given a tank camo. This
could be implemented into WoT and it would make this change more fair to
those that dont want to spend money on these new “bonuses” but still want
to be competitive.
I love the game, I don’t object to WG making money, but this really feels
like a dirty money grabbing move.
I honestly despice Wargaming with a passion… why couldn’t it be a half
decent dev that made this game
it’s a good idea, destroyed by Wargamings greediness. I agree with you
100%. Half a million credits or more for a non permanent small bonus? (Yes
I consider it small, its less than a module permanent slot). Totally not
worth it except for the most hardcore players. Not going to pay a single
cent towards Wargaming either. They are greedy enough on the price of their
premium tanks. 60$ for a tank? are you serious?
I don’t know if people understand how little they have to do to make a
premium tank. An artist goes in and tweaks whats already there, they slam
down some altered stats from the normal one, making it slightly better, or
just different, then slams on a massive price tag.
This new gimmick is even more of a “pay to win”. WoT is already considered
pay to win with its ammo. Now this is going to make it all the worse.
In my opinion, do a system similar to War Thunder. Where you get a chance
to unlock emblems, camo, etc. permanently on each tank for successfully
completing certain personal objectives in-game. The easier ones with less
of a bonus could be as simple as “Kill 300 enemies with this tank”, ok
cool, but more powerful emblems could be harder objectives like “Win a game
by capping with 30% of your hp left, and the only member on your team”. Ok,
it’s difficult, hard, but gives you a permanent emblem for that tank only
that gives a 5% crew bonus. At least this way people that don’t have money
to throw at the dev team can still earn the right to use this stuff. Or
people who don’t want to grind out that objective can pay for it through
gold.
Hell, make each emblem seperate per tank like it is, but do the above. You
earned the desert camo for your Tiger II? Awesome, but you’ll have to play
15 desert maps again in your Cromwell if you want to unlock it for that,
and kill 200 enemies with your Cromwell to get that emblem you like, even
though you have it for your Tiger II.
This way, people can see how much you really love each tank you drive as
well, or even how new you are too it. A player with extremely difficult
emblems on his tank, is probably extremely good at it.
This system would be a win/win for Wargaming AND the players. While its
fair to allow people to earn them permanently, at the same time, it still
gives people incentive to buy them with gold who don’t want to deal with
that, or can’t get the more difficult ones, but want them.
yes I do agree with you, I have emblems and inscriptions on most of my
tanks, do I have to change them now to benefit better crew skills as all my
premium and tanks I intend to keep all have Shamrocks on them.Basically
what I’m saying is Shamrocks might not be that good.
100% agree with you QB. 1st time i thought about letting the game go
because of WG actions.
So I was among the first 5 players on the NA server to 3 mark the T30. I
have played over 500 matches in it, and love it. It’s my go-to tank for all
the times I want to just have a good time playing this game. It has had the
same inscriptions on it for well over a year, Captain America on one side,
and Devastator on the other. Now, to remain competitive with it compared to
others, I will have to change them to something I won’t like, and will have
to spend gold to do so, or rent them for a month. LOLnope. There was
nothing wrong with the camo system, and adding bonuses for
emblems/inscriptions is just a blatant and ill-advised money grab. It also
takes a dump all over the “it’s not p2w” argument, and I think it’s an
EXTREMELY bad time for WG to be gambling on something like this, with
Armored Warfare now being open to everyone. BTW, AW’s inscription and
emblem system does NOT work this way. It’s classic WoT, pay gold for
permanent or credits for rentals, and they are just cosmetic (although
significantly cheaper than in wot).
Bad move, and extremely bad timing.
Totally agree!!!
You need a job in WG to save this game :)
I think there’re several ways to fix this absolutely ridiculous system:
first I want to say that: emblems and inscriptions having bonuses is
probably not a bad idea.
BUT, either
1) there’s not an option to buy them with gold, and if we buy them with
credit, they will be permanent.
or
2) the gold prices are lower down at least by 60%, and make the bonus
smaller.
or
3) make it so that everybody have to play a tank a lot or exceptionally
well to earn an emblem or inscription.
I personally think the 3 up here is the best solution, or all of the 3
together.
Otherwise, this is BULLSHIT, having 4% more crew skills is so much more
significant than 3% more camouflage rating, I personally do not care about
those camouflage rating bonuses, but 4% crew skills can determine the
difference between losing a fight completely on a street corner, and
victory.
Seriously Wargaming, I’ve been playing this game for 4 years now, 2 years
on the NA server, don’t make NA server as bad as the Chinese server.
I wholeheartedly agree with you QB
wtf wg… wtf… the emblems ar fucking ugly if you whant me to pay for
this fuck let m at least upload my own emblems -.- this game is geting
unfair and shitty
i disagree with this system, it’s gonna force to play armoured warfare
Pay 2 win confirmed.. I’m out.. Have fun in wot:)
It’s good that now emblems can give some kind of bonus as a lot of people
have spent gold or credits to customize their tanks just for fun. However,
it feels like they are nickle and dimeing their customer base. Also, this
means they put actual development time towards this new feature and I doubt
that this was a top priority in enhancements from their customers. So, that
means to me they are not listening to their customers and are only going
for money. This isn’t the WOT game that I feel in love with years ago.
Wargamming is taking the game’s soul away.
i do have flags on couple tanks but i have 40 tanks only 3 or 5 tanks have
emblems ? em no deal for me these updates are getting worse and worse(my
oppinnion) and yeah agree with that i have my country flags on tank need to
change my embles for stupid ugly emblems just to get bonus and that much
gold well yes i get all my gold from balticleague but wtf is this bs? i
earn my gold use it on bs… no deal
Lol this is just another “pay2win” “update” I mean what’s next? a fucking
nuke that’ll end the match and you’ll win even if it’s 14 vs 1? and it’ll
only cost you 600 gold per quarter of a nuke? (1/4 = 600 gold) I can
already imagne the ad:
WG: “Hey! are you bored of loosing matches?? yes??, then come along to and
buy our new quarter of a nuke kit! it’ll give you 1/4th of a nuke that’ll
end the match no matter what! it’ll only cost you 600 gold per quarter!”
(if you watch angryjoeshow I would recommend that you read that in Cobra
Commanders voice :D) WG is seriously getting me pissed off….
This is fucking bullshit… urgh
Edit: why did I ever give these greedy assholes any money at all -_-
They need to finish that new office building, aren’t they?
they can’ t do this, it is unfair. Please WG don’t do this big error it’ s
the start to destroy a competitive game and trasform it in a pay to win.
It’s the way to decrease the number of your players. Sorry for my bad
english but i want to give my opinion.
Go QB !!!
if this goes on then wot has become a definat pay to win game and that wold
be bad for wows and wow plus it would lose a huge amount of its player base
Turning into pay to win game, started with the camo. As the greed grows,
new ways are found to suck out the money and that is the pay to win way.
This game will be in decline soon, they changed the original game too much.
I will not renew my premium account, haven’t played it lately. Last 30 days
of premium I maybe played for 5,6 days, the rest seeped away. Couldn’t care
less. This isn’t the game I started playing 5 years ago.
already have emblems and cam on most of my keeper tanks, dislike the idea
here and will not be changing any, great vid QB
As a player who only gets to play 50 matches a week on a good week, a lot
of things about this game are already difficult for me. I was essentially
forced to buy a T8 premium because I cannot turn enough credit profit to
both play by higher tier tanks AND advance down new lines of the tech tree.
This move tells me that no matter what I do, I will be at a 4-6%
disadvantage in every battle going forward because I simply cannot afford
to buy these bonuses for my tanks.
I have a good idea. ok so you can buy the basic emblems just for creds
right? silver. and you can pay gold to be able to create your own emblems
or saying on your tank? and picked the appropriate bonus you actually want
for each created emblem. that would be pretty cool.
I just slap on what I like a standard heart with dagger and queen of hearts
and some inscriptions I like on them.
@quickyBabyTV their will be missions for all the items that isnt camo. but
i think you should be able to add a perk to a ensigmia in the game.
What I hate most is the fact, that I will HAVE TO use inscriptions that I
despise. I can’t imagine to play my STB, or Type with this Asian
discriptions, no offense, but I simply don’t like it on those tanks. I made
most of my tank really “mine” – special, they are going to remove that!
🙁 Let the riot begins!
fuck wargaming ……. more and more money for the russian bitches …. not
with me … i will quit wargaming games forever
I am totally agree! we can’t waste so much money every month. And I think
also we can win an enable in a mission or something like that.
Stuff like this is why I’ve moved to Armored Warfare. It’s not flawless or
anything, and I actually prefer some of the more bonkers designs that get
into World of Tanks due to the era in tank development it covers* – but I
feel like the devs are a bit more receptive to not-screwing their
playerbase. (Also arty is way less annoying in that game, so that’s a plus
as well.)
Obviously though, YMMV, and for some AW won’t do it, it’s just the option
I’ve decided to go with to get way from Wargaming.
*I doubt we’ll ever see something like a Maus or Type 5 Heavy in Armored
Warfare, for instance.
this is a pretty desperate moneygrab
when camo bonuses first came into the game, WoT was the only game in the
market. but now they’re competing with Obsidian’s Armoured Warfare (which
is very friendly on the pay to win front at the moment, with no premium
ammo ect) there’s no way this flies!
so now the big guys in big clans that have gold to spare will shit on
everyone else. fuck this.
I actually think it is good by wargaming to have this new system because
you will have to spend more time into playing tanks and also it gives you
that very nice satisfaction feeling when you get the camo or emblem etc,
you want to buy for one month. But that one month period just screws it all
up…
Rubishh !!!!
I don´t get any Problems with their “new system”. ´Cause I´m the
customer…and if Wargaming implement such crude Systems in my favourite PC
Game…than I just quit and maybe watching out for alternatives…so at the
end…let Me ask: Was WoT gettin´better after the last 3 major-updates ?
No. Wargaming failed by every single try to keep this game modern and bring
it on it´s best way…Armored Warfare is waiting…and I truly believe if
they did´nt made the same mistakes and still arguing like Wargaming do in
:”We´re not listening to the players”…Mission accomplished…and
wargaming went to the new gulacs.
If you look on the bright side though. . After the patch the account sales
will be the customers market ;P
if there were missions to earn the stuff then it would be OK
this is a terible idée, cosmetics shud not be mandetory.
With every update war gaming puts out, i dislike the game more and more.
WTF wargaming ????? For real ??? QB ty for the video and the heads up , i
hope they are not keeping this system , because i’m not going to pay 500k+
each month to have a fail +4% bonus even is a most welcome bonus , don’t
have the gold to spend on this things
Sounds like punishment to people that don’t pay to play, you fight for your
credits, earning them, for shame wargaming. Its bad enough if you can’t
afford gold.
this shit is fucked up..
they should rename this game to world of tanks: pimp my ride.
Since we’re talking about the exteriors, I just want to share an idea about
the camouflage in WOT. Wouldn’t it be nice if different camouflages gave
you different camo ratings when firing, on the move, stationary and have
been stationary for some time on different terrains like sand, rock, grass
snow or combinations of them where multiple coloured patterns work best
because of “that an enemy crew member sees it as randomness in nature
rather than a big solid white object in front of the scenery”. Sorry if
it’s a bit off topic or if its already been discussed on the forums, I
don’t read the forums.
Two thumbs up. Don’t be scrubs wargaming.
Spot on Analysis. This is the kind of change that would drive me away from
the game. The thought that someone would be able to buy an advantage over
me more so than the present system is disappointing. What a turn off.
I completely agree with you QB, to add in my own input though, I would say
the following things (some of these things are just reinforcing what you
said):
1. WG needs to get rid of the 7 day/1 month rental BS. The 30 day credit
price should be the PERMANENT price for camo/emblems/inscriptions.
2. WG should NOT implement this system with the 2%(all crew member) and 3%
(single crew member) bonuses if they have ANY sort of limitation. As we
saw, the limitations make the bonuses almost useless and only take up
emblem/inscription choices that people may want on their vehicle.
3. If WG implements this next patch, they NEED to give ALL vehicles the
full 4 emblem/inscription slots. Otherwise, many vehicles will get an
unfair advantage in this system over tanks that get 3 or fewer slots.
4. Emblems/inscriptions should only need to be bought ONCE for each
nation’s tank type AT THE VERY LEAST (i.e. buying a certain
emblem/inscription once for an American medium can let you use that
unlocked emblem/inscription for all American mediums)! However, buying once
for each nation would be optimal (i.e. buying an emblem/inscription for an
American medium unlocks that emblem/inscription for all American tanks).
This system is currently flawed but if WG made the above changes then 10.0
could be amazing. Thanks for listening to my input and being considerate of
your followers by making this video QB.
I never put money into Wot. Glad u can see it from others point of view
quicky totally agree with you!! that its exactly what i wa thinking.
I agree completely no bonus. They are just getting greedy. Like you said
is it going to be a pay to win game now. If so I will not dump any more
money into this game.
I have 20 tanks. That’s 10 million credits a month. I earn that credits
with a premium account in 10 days, when I’d rather grind standard tanks.
DONT PUT THIS IN THE GAME…
I wish WOT would spend as much time reworking MM rather then spending time
trying to take more money from its players. I really don’t like the new
emblem / inscriptions pay to improve your ability to win. It seems to me
that WOT continues to rig the game toward the wallet warriors and reduces
the balanced and fair playing field. Money grab from WOT just reeks of
Greed. Just not good for the game or the players, but who ever said WOT
cared. If they did they would have spent their time on graphics, current
game play/maps and of course working on improving MM. I used to purchase
premium time, premium tanks and spend money on this game. But in the past
year I have stopped and I am just waiting for the premium time to run out
before I move over to Armored Warfare full time. Sad but I have lost my
interest in WOT due to these money grab type issues along with the poor
match making which has gotten worse over the years rather then better. Not
to mention the lack of follow through on promises by WOT on graphics,
improved game play and addition and changes to existing maps.
With that said, its on to Armored Warfare. See you on the battlefield. :)))
if they gave me back the gold I spent on emblems, camo, and inscriptions,
I’d be ok. I don’t like how some of my innuendos like hit and run on my
arty, liberator on my obj140, my favorite crown emblem i put on my favorite
tanks might have a silly skill buff. this will make my favorite tanks less
lovable :(
i have bunch of tanks that have permanent camo and emblem options
available, no idea how i have them i think they are from missions or
somthing so hopefully they have more stuff like that i guess.
I can’t wait for fallout 4 so I can quit my addiction of this game.
QB – thank you for illuminating this slanted, unbalanced, clearly
money-grubbing move by WG. Not only are they making themselves look LESS
like the new, “other game”, they are showing us how MUCH less like the new,
“other game” they are. The new, “other game” awards you tank bonuses
(outside of premium time and tanks) ONLY by stacking performance in game –
no real money purchases necessary.
hey wargaming refund my gold which i already spent on emblems and
inscriptions
And more pay to win…thanks Wargaming :(
I would say, that i’d still rathet keep this change. I think it can be bad,
but if you waste 2€ on your favourite tank to keep it forever, i could do
that. Well people sure like to be on top of things, by what i mean people
want to have better bonus than others.
This is one of the worst systems I’ve ever seen, if they put this in I
might as well quit playing cause to pay to win is not worth my time.
I think this is a step towards pay to win – again. I remember a time there
was premium ammunition only available with gold. Wargaming changed it so
you can buy premium ammo for credits – lots of credits. If i look at a low
tier Tank i love like the Luchs paying 540.000 credits do get a 4% bonus is
a 30 day joke since ventilation only costs 50.000 on this tank and gives a
bonus of 5% forever.
WG kind of destroyed the system here
This just doesnt make sense. Greedy thing to do and its a big step to
become another pay-to-win game. I have some emblems, and im pretty sure i
dont want the bonus they provide. Make it so that you can buy them for
credits, so that people can grind for it if they want them. If they wont do
that, they will lose players over this.
of course agree!!!
Totaly agree with the idea of permanent purchasing with credits… If i can
purchase couple premium/gold shots for credits just to be competative, why
cant i do the same thing with camo or emblems…
I do agree! I just whish this system will not be implemented!
First because it gives me the feeling that wargaming tries to farm gold out
of us. (And I already invested more money on this game than on many other
“pay to own” games.)
And second because I don’t like the idea of getting an emblem, or an
inscription I dislike just for the sake of some bonus. For exemple I called
my Matilda “Elusive” as I found it very ironical (which suits to me) but
what if the bonus doesn’t suit my playstile?
Third I just don’t like the fact that certains tank could obtain
arbitrarily more bonuses just because they got more emblem slots. (As you
just mentionned)
The sole way I could agree to see such a system implemented is if it was a
mission reward or a if you get it awarded temporarily for a distinction you
get in battle (e.g. Top Gun) similarly to what is done with signal flag in
world of warships.
Its so hard to play well and not spend real money…
First off, thank you for speaking up for the player base on this. I can’t
speak to how much weight your voice carries, but I know its far more than
the rank and file player. Secondly, I think your alternative solutions are
spot on and acceptable, given the circumstances they are regarding. Lastly,
I propose a third alternative I’d like to see for obtaining
emblems/camouflage. I wouldn’t be opposed to adding them to the crew skill
tree. Obviously, anyone in their right mind would train their crews in the
regular skills, at first, but I think it would be interesting to be able to
unlock emblems/camouflage as well. This way, the more dedicated players,
those who’ve unlocked every skill, can continue to better their
vehicles, while less experienced or more casual players can tailor fit
their tanks to their more desired gameplay style. In addition, you would
also be able to use free experience to unlock emblems/camo this way. Thank
you again, and keep up the great work.
yup you’re totally right
games are not realistic, they are cash cows, ‘he who makes the gold makes
the rules’. Here is WG doing just that, so we can complain, then we have 2
options as I see it, 1 close our wallets, 2 start playing something else.
But remember mmo’s are games and businesses make games, they are there to
make money so they can continue to make games to make money. welcome to
capitalism working as intended, the rich dominate the poor don’t get a look
in.
And so the pay the win begins…
I agree, WG is so stupid because it is annoying because I have B-C 25 t and
Leopard 1 and having to pay 100k credits just for 1 month?! If I don’t play
for a week that is wasting 25k credits! I don’t have a a lot of money…. I
only have 1.3m credits and I can’t spend that much money for hardly any
bonus. Besides if your playing a game with the crew skill and you don’t see
the requirements for completing the little mission and not trying to get it
done, your wasting credits just for nothing. For LTs having to be within 50
meters?! That makes no sense if your trying to do a mission without being
spotted and spotting and want the little bonus. 50 meters is equivalent to
being proxy spotted. So I think if your spending that many credits for a
darn rental, you should keep it forever. (Great videos QB keep it up! ;D)
Earned my respect mate!
What an utter bullshit p2w method this is. I can only see this leading to
more and more money making/ p2w methods from WG.
For the last 8-10 months I’ve been playing WOT less and less, in fact I
think I’ve spent much more time just watching your videos and livestream.
The only thing I’ve really held out for was the Chieftain (I grinded the
tree specially, I now have a tier 10 fantasy tank unlocked that I have no
interest in playing, whoopee!). What with that fiasco, and now a blatant
pay to win dick move like this I think it’s time to say bollocks to
Wargaming.
Ohh look another WG cashcow… one more reason to switch to AW :P
QB the word by words translation of that inscription is ‘ A stupid man
remove a mountain’ and that translation is actually correct. The story is
that. There was a mountain in front of an old man’s house which makes him
inconvenient to go to the town. Then he asked all his family members to
remove this mountain. Other people said to him’ You fool, you wont get it
done even when you die.’ The old man said’ But I still got my sons and my
grandsons and so on. We got unlimited of time and the mountain will be
removed one day.
Camo rental has been out there for ages. But i do think its a bit of a joke
when you pay a fortune for it..but hey its a russian game, and we all know
they dont like giving things away for cheap or free.
Premium ammo, premium consumables, emblems, camo, This totals to a shit ton
of credits a month, and If you don’t spend money on a premium account you
just cant afford to have, so you are at an automatic disadvantage. Even now
I can barely afford to fire premium ammo when I need to and have trouble
earning money, I will NEVER be able to afford 500k credits per tank per
month for this stuff on top of the large amount of credits for premium
ammo, and I don’t even use premium consumables due to lack of credits.
Another thing is, I think WG is doing PERFECTLY FINE with the current
system, If I had more money I would even invest for a premium account, I
have spent slightly less than 100$ on this game which is basically more
than any other game, and I feel like most players around me spend WAY more.
Pay for convenience is a perfect system where players who don’t feel like
wasting hours on end to get to the next tier or earn some credits just
spend money on the game, It works. Pay to win makes a game non competitive
and it seems like WG are getting too greedy.
I would think that WG would try to be more competitive with armored warfare
when it is gaining popularity, If this system of emblems is put into place
Im just going to switch to AW, Who is with me?
so basically, wargaming want more money… great *sarcasm*
I already stopped playing this game, I only watch wot on youtube, but this
is bullshit. Armored Warfare, here I come!
Agree totally.
Why the hell link SPECIFIC boosts with SPECIFIC emblems ffs? There is ZERO
reason why you cant have any emblem you like, and choose which perk you
want. Linking them to specific emblems means i cant choose perks AND make
my tanks look the way I like them to look…… ah yeah… the penny
dropped… its so you have to buy MULTIPLE emblems to have multiple perk
choices.
I have bought camo and full emblems on all my tanks for gold, I paid real
money to make my tanks look how I want them to look. Basically I paid for
PERSONALISING my tanks. Painting up your tank is now not about
personalisation, but about monetization. I think this is a dubious,
dick-move.
Add to this, many of my mates on limited money, and dont always have
premium time, will simply not be able to pay millions out every month to
fund the emblems on their main tanks. This is blatant pay to win.
Personally, I have had excellent experiences with WG, and I have trusted
them with (a tonne of) my money, and I have trusted them as a brand. If
this is the system they roll out, sadly, that trust will have been
compromised.
This move sends out 2 messages…. first its now blatantly pay to win.
Secondly, WG are now dictating how your tanks will look. If you want to be
competitive WG decide how your tank will look.
I think WG need to read up on their history, because Crossing the Rubicon
doesn’t necessarily mean you’re doing a good thing. I have always rated WG
very highly, this is the first thing they have done that has made me
concerned about the future of the game.
Peace.
Hey Quickybaby, i’m really glad u said something. I do think that the
amount of money needed to buy camo, equipment, and now this crap is just
ridiculous. I’ve been playing AW and in that game, it only costs 25k
credits for an equipment. They don’t have camo or emblems yet, but i can
promise u that it will probably be 25k credits or less per tank. That is
far more reasonable and there is 0 rental period. it is permanent. Gold amo
doesn’t exist. The only things that cost gold are premium time and some
premium tanks. Much more reasonable in my opinion. Plus Quickybaby, this is
the first time i’ve seen u get seriously angry with wg. So u don’t get
angry at every little thing. this is a serious problem in your opinon and
i’m seriously glad u said something. Great job man! I do seriously wish
they’d redo the economy on WoT to be much more similar to AW’s. It just
makes sense on AW. Again, really glad u said something and i fully agree
with u!
PAY TO WIN has just gone nuts for this game……might be the last straw
for me as far as WoT’s goes….
pity really as i used to love this game.
100% yes!!!
I 100% agree with you QB I think this is basically a backdoor way of giving
wallet warriors an extra set of vents over everyone else. I think WG need
to re-jig this system so they don’t push even more of the player base in
AW’s arms which would be a shame because I’ve had a heck of a lot of fun in
WOT over the last few years.
Even if you have prem accaunt and you have a tier 8 premium tank, this is
way too expensive. You would have to spend a lot of time paying with that
tier 8 prem tenk in order to be able to aford these emblems for your other
tanks. When are you going to play your other tanks? If you find time to
play those tanks, will you have money to buy next tanks when you finish
grindig those?
Like WoT would not be too pay to win already? I mean it gets more pay to
win every damn patch! Just like as they were going to decrease the normal
ammo penetration but not gold ammo.
Yeah I think they should just completely scrap this garbage altogether. No
one asked for this, no one wants this. It is just a blatant money grab
placed on a cosmetic option, that frankly doesn’t look that good to begin
with. Why is this waste of time coming out before other desired features
such as rebalancing tanks, or the much anticipated crew skill
rebalance/changes. This game is in serious need of some upkeep which
Wargaming refuses to do and instead focuses on easy ways abuse its players
and rip money from their hands. QB you said in a previous video that Tanks
had reached a plateau in terms of popularity, but between this, and the
ridiculous bundles we have seen both here and in Ships, I’d say we just
witnessed the beginning of the end.
Agreed, I am fine with the 3% camo bonus we have been getting since it is
an advantage that is mainly useful for LT and TD and accounts for ~10m of
view range difference in high tier, which is still negligible in most
situations . However this 4% crew skill bonus is completely BS, its like
having an extra vent almost and every tank will benefit from it in all
situations.
If you pay gold for your bonus emblems they should AT LEAST let you choose
what should write on your tank “custom text” or a “unique text”. Something
not vulgar of course. And i have another thing to mention… it.s off topic
but it.s getting serious… wargaming … WHEN will you implement the
female voices for the crew members??? Soon will be 1 year since you gave us
female crew members in the game… i.m sure it.s not that hard to implement
this kind of things!
QB your right! No doubt about it! That will damage the game and they will
lose a awefull lot of players.
And serves them right for doing so!
All emblems and inscriptions should be reseted and the gold should be payed
back so you can decide to buy them again or not at all.
And QB thank you very much to say your opinion so clearly! Thank you!
Intruding the new wot! A free to play, pay to win game were 2 teams of 15
run around a map and which ever team has more players that throw money at
the game wins!
IF this is implemented as shown into the game then this is a real jackass
move from WG. Im am NOT paying that amount of gold nor credits to get that
advantage. Nope nope nope! Do not do this WG! -premiumplayer already paying
per month. Do not need higher expenses to a “free-to-play” game. Im with
you on this QuickyBaby
two things come to mind, first – with the new system, you can see what
bonuses an enemy has which can tell you somewhat how an enemy thinks, how
he sets up his tank, and what he values most in his crew giving tells about
his play style.
second – what about players who have spent countless gold on previous
emblems? I eel it would be fair to those players who have already invested
money to be allowed to change there previous emblems to new emblems or
better yet make all emblems bonuses one time changeable. keep the emblem as
it was but make the bonus what you want for your crews. this would
eliminate any chance of someone seeing what you prefer to set up your tank.
Each emblem would have different meaning for different people.
So, if I want to play f2p and I wan’t to have a competative teir X tanks, I
would need to make 1 500 000 credits every month. I am not a noob (2000wn8
overall) and I can on a good day stay on a 0 profit in my tier X tank but
usually I lose on average 10K per game. I have to go to tier 5 to actaully
make some money (about 15K per game) to be able to finance ONLY EMBLEMS for
my tier X tank, not to speak about actually playing tier X tank. So, I
would need to play about a 100 games in tier 5 tanks to make money for
emblems for ONLY my tier X tanks. And this is not like coca cola or coffe
for which you can say that in random battles are a bad idea because you
need your fire estinguisher. This actually has no downsides against a
cheaper option (you know, +10% crew and you die if you catch of fire vs -3K
credits if you catch fire and you will survive it) because there is no
cheaper option. For that money you can deck out your tier 8 tank and have
your modules forever. This is full bullshit pay to win. Even if I had prem
accaunt and a tier 8 prem, it would be hard to just grind credits to get
these emblems since for that money I can buy new tanks so it would be MUCH
MUCH easyer to pay some gold and get bonuses forever. Fuck that
Three words – Pay To Win. I’ve put a lot of real money into WoT already but
this is just taking the piss. Time to download AW I think
This would stop me playing tbh … I’m mostly free to play as I have kids
and not much disposable income. I am good enough to float even at T 10
(more or less) and make a profit on most tiers below but, this would render
me less competetive than someone with a bigger irl wallet than me. I just
wouldn’t continue to play. Thanks for posting the video and giving us a
“heads up” QB many thanks.
Only way this new system is going to work is “pay” to save time or grind to
get it for free. Either way having the reward be permanent.
Perhaps having emblems/inscriptions unlocked for a nation not just a single
tank would be more fair?
Sounds dumb.
So like most people, I don’t want to spend money on this game other than a
premium account here and there when I have a big break. The way it looks
(or moreover the way you described it) makes it seem as you said that its
status as a free to play game will change. However, I am not completely
against the idea of spending large amounts of credits for basically as you
said an extra equipment slot. Should it be half a million credits a month?
Of course not, that’s ridiculous. But what about a one time purchase of a
million credits for that extra slot? You said it yourself, it’s basically
like having two improved ventilations. What the heck, I play on Xbox and it
will be years before we see anything like this ;)
I know that f2p games are full of ingame stuff to buy with real money, but
when you make it nearly mandatory to be p2p to stay as competitive as
someone who is p2p, then it starts getting redicolous. Everyone should know
that f2p games are not free for the developers and that is why we see stuff
like this happen everywhere, but this emblem bonus crosses the line. We
know that WG wants also some profit from these games (WoW, WoWp and WoWs),
but when you make it very hard for the f2p players to stay as competitive,
it crosses the line. So if this emblem bonus is added whitout the changes
quicy mentioned… Well we could all just stop playing. And who knows,
maybe they add these p2p bonuses to WoWp and WoWs too….
bs load off bs with every patch this game going down hill what about
bots,crap MM,when are they going to look in this,and gold spamming,i didn’t
grind my way to tier 10 to get pend by tier 8’s with every shot.
I agree, QB. This puts me one small step closer to leaving this game
behind.
pay to win game
just now they made it much more easier to notice
plz qb if you have any influence on WG change that.
They destroy their own game step by step.
I agree with you QB and i think they should remove O-I Exp. for game
beacuse it’s too OP for most t3 and t4 tanks (or remove +2 tier matchups
from t3s and t4s)!
completly agree with you
agree!
Soooo……
Matilda + gun rammer + 100%crew = soot each 1.5 sec
and now ad loadder emblems…. yeah
On the one hand, I like that there are new ways to boost my crew’s skills.
But I’m not sure I like this way of doing it. I only put permanent camo on
my favorite tanks, the ones I’m going to keep and play regularly. But I’ve
only put inscriptions on three of my very favorite tanks – my Comet, my
Centurion, and my Fv304 – just because I want them to be a bit more special
even than normal.
And guess what! The few inscriptions I put on those three vehicles now
aren’t relevant. If I knew they were going to impart a crew bonus someday,
then I’d have chosen different ones to give me the bonuses I’d want. And
that irritates me quite a lot.
WG pushing out so many missions, you can´t even play the game anymore,
because everybody tries to complete a mission and not win/play the game.
ı cant even buy the tanks ı opened with exp… this is just holy balls
I think the gaming experience will be changed dramatically with the new
emblem system implemented. Many casual player as myself are already have
some problems with the camouflage, playing the same tank as your opponent,
he can see you but you can see shit. With the new emblem system
implemented, now not only we can’t see that gold spamming A-hole, we’re
gonna reload slower, aim slower and our view range is shorter. I try to be
competitive in the game as economically as possible, Now I can just buy 4%
of skill with real Money?? Good news for WG earnings, bad news for most of
its fan base… I buy some gold from time to time to transfer crew and
camo, but 600 gold per tank??? CRAZY!!! WG is actually punishing people who
don’t pay enough. Now we will be owned by whoever willing to pay. I enjoy
this game largely because I can be competitive with SKILL & PRACTICE, and I
believe in it. I believe if I play relatively well and I can win more. With
the new emblem system, I’m not so sure anymore….
I wish they would refund you for the emblems and inscriptions u already
have on your tanks. Knowing my luck all my emblem and inscriptions bonuses
would go to my radio man -_-
war gaming…Why???
It’s as if WG is trying as hard as they can to push me away from this game.
This pay to win crap with emblems and inscriptions, Clan Wars 2.0 being
absolute shit and having to run nonstop SH, the lying about implementing
the Chieftain, and so much else. Well they got their wish, I haven’t
touched the game in two weeks now and have been playing Armored Warfare
instead.
The point of WG is so players can spend more gold.
Completely agree. This whole thing is greedy and plain insulting.
Its just how it is – a business. Look at the 111 for example. Great tank,
if you use premium ammo. not so competitive if You don´t. Wargaming has for
some time now been screaming “Show us the money”.
More evidence for the point I have been making recently. WG are just trying
to squeeze as much money out of us as possible in a game they no longer
care about. They are just ruining the games with goodies, multi spawn
kiddie games and other garbage.
WG ONLY care about their new winner WOWS. I LOVE WOWS which is better than
WOT which I have now given up!
It really worries me about the future of WOWS even if they now are doing
everything right. Come on WG get your shit together!
QuickyBaby is the Robin Hood of World of Tanks.
As it stands right now I think the system is crap. The only reason I have
any camo, inscriptions, and emblems on my tanks is personal. I think they
look cool and I think they make my tank more personal. For example the
tanks I play the most have the paw print emblem on them. Its how me and a
few friends mark or unofficial guild/clan.
More and more people are leavening Wot. Wargaming is not doing really good
trying to get people to play there game if this happens
Wow, QB is one of the most pro-WG youtubers and seeing him be so critical
about this feature should really raise some eyebrows at the WG office.
WG must be hard up for cash, this stinks of P2W.
I think you are right.İf you dont have premium acc it’s hard to win credits
and if u are in a bad match up u cant win credits because u have to use
premium shells
With this WG, for sure you will go bankrupt, because no one will pay more
gold for insignificant emblems but…. the camouflage, cmon guys stop
making this pay to win, i ve see to many games going bankrupt because that,
so WG you need implenent again those *skills or whatever* and make it
viable for your game, its extremely hard geting now or credits. i hope WG
understand.
It’s a bad idea.
I agree with the non rental system. 540,000 credits should be a permanent
upgrade. The 7-day rent could stay if it was really cheap perhaps.
Great more bonus for all the pay to win players.
talk about pay to win… -.-
Hmmmm…. the thing is…
> I < don't care about 5%...... I'm thinking about it.. if it is ... 30% ..... but ...
This is all a butch of bull.
so true
wow…. Wargaming needs to get their shit together if they want to compete
with armored warfare.
if they keep going like this, they can kiss their game goodbye 😉
haven’t played wot for 1 month now. AW is too awesome :)
If they don’t change this, we should all agree that the first thing we do
in the game is shoot any tank that is full of emblems. I know I will. NO
PAY TO WIN!
I certainly agree with you, it’s just mad to invest half a million to
things like that.
I hope that WG dont apply this ._.
this is a load of horseshit (pardon the American slang). but seriously, ive
never put a single cent into this game, ive ground out every tank and
everything ive earned in this game the hard way. now its just going to get
even harder to be competitive versus those who just throw money at WG. GG
WG
I feel like the changes makes the emblem/inscriptions feel less personal
since I’ll now be pressured into optimizing all my inscriptions and
emblems… most of my vehicles will end up having the same thing on them,
and I might not necessarily like what they look like or say. The rental
period on them is a pain, either drop the price significantly or make them
permanent.
If you could pick the bonuses separate of the actual inscriptions/emblems,
I’d also feel a lot better about it.
Do the calculation, if you make around 40k a match in your tank. You’d have
to play about 12-13 matches to get the money for these skins for a month.
Add a little bit of randomness and you are probably looking at 20 matches a
month to keep your skins.
Not that horrible, but less would be nice.
i agree quicky its crazy what w.g does to this game .. its alomost like
they are purposely trying to wreck this game for the free players ….
money money money is all they care about now instead of having a world
class game like before all the nerfing patches .. welcome to world of nerf
and patch….. broken mm and horibble rng … between the 2 we have to
fight the game long before the first shot is fired …..
I really like how QB is standing up for the gamers and criticises Wargaming
in this video. Thumbs up!
Ok. So QB actually doesn’t say always good about wargaming.
BTW this whole system is bullshit
I whole heartily agree with you on this. WG has to change it.
“we need more cash” “don’t we have any more premiums we can throw in the
next update?” “nope” “what else can we do.. OH! idea”
But it is only 3%. It just doesen’t makes difference i think.
wow..just wow wargaming
i have been a premium player since 3 years and have 7 ish prem tanks..
i am seriously thinking about stop playing and stop paying these money
greedy b-stards my hard earning money.. its kinda getting to much…
Disgustingly pay-to-win sustem
wot have become a free to play but pay to win game. and its getting worse
in each patch. time to move to the other game
Alright it’s final. Now we ca all agree this is pay to win. The price for
silver is just so prohibitive it pretty much forces most players to use
gold.
Pay to win
For normal players this bonuses are not needed to be competitive. Because
the most of the enemies cant play as effective as they need to take use out
of it.
I had enough experience with not max. skilled crew kicking butt. So it
makes only a change for the highest class of players. If some unicums want
to spent even more
gold for the game than they already do just to have another 100wn8 more on
there account, then im fine with that.
The majority of the players have enough fun with less than 2200wn8 and for
them this bonuses will not make really differences, if they dont use it.
Who cares about 300wn8 bots with 2 emblems on there tank? i dont, i wouldnt
even care if they can purchase 30.
About the price-performance: Not wargaming will decide, whether this prices
will stay, “supply and demand” will handle it. just think about the t-34-3
before buff.
Well I haven’t played WoT in a while. If this system comes out with no
changes I’ll probably never return to this game. Quickybaby thank you for
complaining about this, I just hope WG are listening.
WG is doing everything that if we want to have fun and have some chances to
win, or get new higher lvl tank we need to pay. New emblem system is the
best example of what is going on now. If you want to spent over half milion
for an emblems and camo, you need to have PREMIUM acount or PREMIUM tank.
Without it, playing on higher tier battles gives youno chance le to earn so
much money, that you can rent camo for like 4-5 tanks. Another example is
to nerf penetration on standard shells from some tanks. It wasn’t like it
was “to easy” to penetrate, they are porsuding us to use GOLD shells…
This game is going to suecide because of “micro” payment. Sorry for my bad
english. CHEERS QB
god as if they didn’t already get enough money from this game why don’t
they start giving on all their promises like havok instead of finding more
ways to take money from us
Sounds like WG has set up a vodka enema station at their HQ.
I though camo was given 5% bonus to all tanks
Well now i will not buy any more
?
Something tells me Armoured warfare is going to win over few old Pats,
these ideas are a worry, not everyone has got gold or even credits to
compete with the rest in wot, modern tanks game is pretty good lol
No more fun in this game :((
Camoflauge is fine by me of course it makes the the vehicle harder to
detect since that’s the point of it.But making emblems have a bonus is just
simply dumb.Makes no sense.Especially that every single emblem has a
different bonus attached to it.Now people won’t buy it because they want
their tank to look good they will buy it just to have the bonus.
Also I want to be as competitive as possible on all of my tanks and not
only my favorites, and so i’m already using camo rental on most of my
tanks. and it costs a LOT already. If they do this, I’ll simply give up,
and feel frustrated because i’m a competitor ,and in the end I will stop
Wot to go and play games where I can be amongst the very best without
paying stupid amounts of real money.
People will buy this stuff, and then complain cause it “Does not work”
Because they did not read the emblem stuff and what they bought is not
working because they have no team mates left or they have more hit points,
don’t crits etc. More micro-transactions, we need more to win. I’m sure
there will be a special coming that you can buy that is not available in
game for a low low price of $99.99. Special rare OP emblem coming soon to
the game shop soon.
14K battles played….making micro transactions for premium accounts and
premium tanks (recently brought another one) on a regular basis. This
however, will be the straw that broke the camels back for me if they go
ahead and put this in.
They think people will not leave the game because of the time they have
invested, well if you piss people off enough they won’t ever play the game
again, let alone come back wargaming. So listen to us, and the voices of
your community contributors and wake up!!!!!
I think WG is way out of touch with it’s client base. With the lousy RNG,
constant nerfs and buffs and other machinations they are ruining the game
play. After this what comes next? Entry fee for each battle you join?
Number one, How could anybody dislike this video? This is another nail in
WG’s coffin. Only rich idiots will play this game in the future.
I have never spent money on Wot and this for me its absolute kick in the
butt… It’s just greediness of WG… It may mean that they will do more
stuff because they can recruit more employers but i think its only
greedy… I persnolly didnt like camouflages which gives you camo because
to pay silver every month on a camo that will not work because you will get
different types of maps all the time according which camo u dont have…
its just ridicoulos…. Maybe it’s time to stop getting money a make the
game better so it can lure more players…
Don’t like this. Cosmetics should just BE COSMETIC!
+QuickyBabyTV I will be honest for a second and i`ll tell you my account
has a total of over 100.000 gold worth of premiums vehicles excluding type
59 (i don`t even know how much but i know there are 16 of them). Also the
amount of gold invested in free XP or switching equipment or camo bought
for each vehicle is simple tremendous… A terrible experience for me is to
think how much cash did WG nicely snatched from my pockets over years. But
even so i was thinking it is bad, but it can`t get worst and i will just
swallow the gigantic ball of bullshit they proudly present next to the
“Free to play!”. Now QuickyBaby, you`re not the tough type of a person but
i appreciate a lot your initiative taken in the last few minutes of the
video. It is up to you, famous streamers to be the edge of the community`s
voice and advocate against these bottomless cash harbingers when they
forget how thin is the “Free to play” image in player`s mind. As for me, i
told you already in the last arty video you posted: “RIP common sense!” See
you in Armored Warfare.
I have 0 gold.. And i know that many peepz dont have acces to gold.. So we
don’t get it either?
I actually got upset after watching this video. yes, I agree with you QB,
and I hope these changes won’t be on the game in next patch, or
better, never. Why`? Because I think there is already a giant step between
”pay to win” players and ”normal” players. Gold players
already have better benefits in the game, and it’s okay. Of course buying
gold shouldadvantage your game, but there should be limits. Because
everyone don’t want to spend their money on a game and possible they even
don’t have money for that. They should still have the right to play the
game properly. If these changes apply, there will be even bigger step
between the two type of players and personally for me, that feels very
unfair that I can’t be statically on the same level as someone else. Sorry
for broken english, but you get the point, right?
WoT is getting more complicated with every patch… logging out.
more greed , less fun , more head ache
Hey Quickybaby, first of all, I’m not an native speaker so my english is
probably not that good. Anyway, very good video! I used to watch your
streams and youtube videos alot, but over time I became a better player
(your content helped me very much and I imagine it still does for newer
players to learn the game) and I kind of lost interest in your videos,
primarily due to the lag of critizism regarding WGs recent policy and the
state of the game with its many problems (arty, mm, RNG, balancing,…).
With this great video though, you have my attention again. We need big
people like you critizing the game, to make World of Tanks great again.
Thanks for the video, nice to finally hear your opinion on WGs decision
making.
I have already a large amount of money and my precious time invested in
this game., but if they keep following the path to “pay to win” I will have
to consider quitting the game.
this is disgusting. especially the activation conditions
Im pretty much above average player, i have not spend any gold, or had
premium account. In 9k battle, have nor fired 50 gold ammo, because why?
These are unfair too.
WG make the game playable so not just a gaming pc can be able to run this
shit, and do not spend time creating these shit things for making
everything unfair. Instead make the game playable for an avarage PC/Laptop,
I play the game since 2 years, but the performance got always worse, not
better. FIX THAT INSTEAD EVERYTHING ELSE PLS!!!
I wan to likde this game but the pay to win is crazy with the covert xp,
gold tanks, gold ammo and now this. Ive stopped playing because its so
unblanaced and if you have the spare cash you will be oughtright better off
than people like me who try to play casualy. Arty need to be balanced, the
gold situation is out of hand and the grind forces you to buy gold.
that’s unfair. it’s too expensive
i completly agree qb
maybe this new system would work if it was like in world of warships were
you can rent cammo per battle and not for too much…
nice cash grab wargaming,wallet warriors unite…………..this idea is
fucking bullshit……………
All the tanks have already got an emblem for example a star, does that mean
that they’ve natively got a buff?
I think this is a bad move for WG. It bring the ” Pay to Win” back. And
with Armored Warfare around the corner, they will lose even more players to
AW.
After the Payday 2 Crimefest desaster i swore to never play a pay to win
game again… well after i came to the 10.0 Testserver i had to hold back
my tears because i have to stop playing my most beloved game ever after
almost 4 and a half years ups and downs.
GJ WG GG
YEAH!!!:D If I give 2000 gold /month maybe they fix bugs for just me?:D
Damn, man, I’ve never seen you so angry! I agree completely. I use camo on
my fun tanks and tanks I have in my garage because they were important in
WWII (hell, I have in-game elite Panther tattooed on my arm!), and try to
use camo on light tanks and scouts, but having to invest that much
credits… This is crazy talk by Wargaming.
It was P2W, now it will be even more. GTH WG :)
WG trying to milk me like a cow, I say no… going to play Aromored warfare
for now until their brains eill br back OK
its all about the money… this sucks
if this is not fix when this patch is released i’m leaving world of tanks
forever
very STUPID WG ….WG u sux!!!!
This is just more pay to win greed for WG, yet another disappointing change
to the game
That is it for me, the last piece of Wargaming coin grab that I will
tolerate. I know this is only on test server and it might not happen but it
all gives a clear indication of their attitude towards customers. And there
is now a decent (gold ammo free) alternative.
Well summed I guess… WG is getting greedy with this system… Even just
putting camouflage for credits on my tank as it is at the moment annoys me
as it is for a rental period, so if I have to do the same for the emblems
and inscriptions… I’ll just get rid of this game and cleaning up my hard
drive of this crap…
You’d think they’d know to at least reduce pulling shit like this now that
AW has gone into OB. That game looks like it will be a really solid
competitor to WoT.
hello QB i think it’s not fair to the people like me how aren’t capable of
spending money in this game because of the parent or of not having a job.
This is a real issue. Along with this, the new premium rental system needs
a huge overhaul as well. Tier 6 and 7 are a nightmare when every player and
their mother can get a kv 5 for playing a few games.
this is bs
i’m wondering also if it is also a new way for WG to try to survive longer
with more incomes due to devaluation Of their money with all theses
economical bullshits between east and west, your know like during this
stupide cold war….
it’s a video game, they have to make money. what else do you want them to
do?
I think focusing on things that can be available to everyone to make the
game more interesting should be what WG is doing. Not this. How about
actual working vehicle headlights that provide viewrange bonus but camo
nerf, that you can switch on and off? Just an example but I feel like the
ideas people at WG are missing some really obvious and positive stuff.
The end of wargaming empire if this stays the same
I feel like I really have to thank you QB for your honest opinion. It
really makes me feel you are caring about your community and not simply
promoting WG because they give you access to events or content by them
exclusively. So: Thumbs up for you mister!
To my way of thinking, this is just a money-grab by Wargaming. I don’t have
the time to play the game enough to grind up the credits that will be
required and I can’t justify throwing loads of money at it, to buy the gold
required. I HAVE put camo and some emblems, like yourself, on tanks that
appealed to me or that I wanted to keep, but only when they were on sale,
because I didn’t think they were worth the money at full price. I will not
be buying any more emblems, inscriptions or camo in future if this is
implemented because I want to put on what I like, not be forced to pick
something I don’t want because I will be put at a disadvantage to someone
else if I do. Even your mimimum of making credit purchases permanent is not
good enough, because the only way I could get enough credits to equip all
of my tanks ( and I only HAVE 30 or so) would be to buy gold and exchange
it into credits, and that’s NEVER going to happen.
100% agree. I would say that if you want to spend the credits/gold on a
inscription or emblem it should be on one that you actually want, not the
one that gives you the best bonus. I rarely use emblems on my tanks, much
due to me wanting to keep the original emblem. And also, I personally think
that there are no emblems that are worth having. Camouflage I use on most
of my higher tier tanks, mostly because I like it, and it makes the tank
look better, but it still stings when you have to pay that gold. So to sum
it up, no to emblems and inscription bonuses, or if it comes, don’t make
people choose, give all emblems and inscriptions the same bonus, even the
original ones.
it just first shoot got effect like i test on supersherman 10,55 reload
then 10,80,correct me if i wrong
100%, wg showing it’s true colors once again, fix your game instead of
milking your customers
I’ll put permanent camo and my country flags on my first tier X vehicle
regardless if they will implement this mechanism to the game. So that would
be a nice add-on for me, but I must agree, that for people that play many
tanks like you do, it is going to be annoying and expensive. And for the
people that claim you support Wargaming so much because you get paid, now
have the proof that it’s not true because you told your honest opinion that
could not have been bought.
Remove the rental period like Quicky said, keep the costs (gold and silver)
and bonuses the same, but if you buy the emblems/inscriptions with gold,
you earn crew XP (or maybe tank XP?) faster. This would give people more of
an incentive to give Wargaming money, wouldn’t have an impact on the way
matches play out, and, if there were emblems that increased tank XP earned,
could actually end up hooking more people on the game because it would
reduce the amount of grinding needed, and I’ve noticed that that’s the most
off putting thing about this game to new players.
Pay to win …. not more to say …. Fuck Off WG
Yet anoter reason why I stoped playing WOT and went to Armored Warfare.
This is the most arrogant money grab, pay to win, scheme yet. GG WG, you
might have just convinced me to finally give up this game altogether.
WT E100 was OP as shit right? Serb disagrees:
http://ritastatusreport.blogspot.com/2015/10/grille-15-wt-e-100-replacement.html#more
pay to win at its finest…
good concept poor execution
i dont even own a decent computer! i only play it with my dual core pc
super outdated before and now i only watch videos! for entertainment so sad
i have to borrow my friends laptop to open my acount and now theres this
overpriced things thank COC i can still play some games lol
fack you wargaming
so now im quite sure ill never reinstall this game
it is not a good ideea , you were right , if you pay 500k credits , it
should be forevere
yeah i think it is stupid and i agree with you
I would love to see them let you use one emblem across all tanks once you
buy them, but I feel like that would kick up a pretty big shitstorm as
well. For example, I have the wolf paw emblem on 3 different tanks, I would
certainly feel ripped off if they wouldn’t offer some form of compensation
for this (if not a straight refund for the other 2 tanks’ emblems…)
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What a bullshit idea with these emblems…
I totally agree with you QB!! Apart from all you’ve said – what if I like
the original emblem that is already on the tank? (Czechoslovak community
was fighting for a long time to turn their national flag into a circle
logo,and now, with the upcoming czechoslovakian tree, we finally got the
logo we wanted => I DO NOT WANT ANY OTHER EMBLEM ON MY CZECHOSLOVAKIAN
TANKS THAN THE ORIGINAL ONE, IN ORDER TO KEEP IT COMPETETIVE!!!)
First World of warships bundles then this shit.
QB, I totally agree with you. This might be the worst move I have ever seen
from Wargaming. It just seems sooo greedy and unfair. Honestly, it makes
the Wargaming management seem like a bunch of assholes. For the wellbeing
of Wargaming and the game, I hope they cancel this change, or at the very
least make some drastic changes and implement this in some kind of
basically fair and not-so-greedy version.
Jesus christ Wargaming, wtf are you thinking? Success got you your heads?
Anyway, thanks for the good update QB.
Interesting
if this is the case, bring back pref match making for premium vehicles
I completely agree with you quickybaby
I think that Wargaming is trying to force us to spent real money to be
competetive.
So WG have finally tipped right over the edge? As this stands, it’s a
massive pay to win advantage.I have 60+ tanks that I like and have kept
hold of. How much will it cost me to remain on an equal par with other
players?
Mission cammos were given for cW campains. To the top 100 clans, for 1 tank
of your choice, an all season cammo.
I think it is ridiculous how we may have to pay credits/gold to put
inscriptions & emblems that we don’t like on tanks to stay competitive.
like I am an ok player but I think emblems look tacky n dumb but if I wanna
keep up with the other players I’ll be throwing these stupid things on my
tank.
Thanks quicky as a guy who doesn’t buy any gold u really opened up to the
people who can’t afford or simply can’t buy a simple gold pack or just
thinks buying gold for this game is ridiculous. u really did step in our
shoes thanks bro u rock
If they implement this crap I will uninstall the game, not worth it. After
the patch when they nerfed the accuracy, I was raging. Why the hell should
you learn how to be accurate when you can auto aim “preferable with gold
ammo”. Constantly changing the stats of the vehicle, it is another major
minus point of the game, You start to grind a line of vehicle and when you
finish it You are shock to see that the tier 10 is another bird not the one
that was showed back ago when You started the line. The problem is that
they don’t pay me back the money that I had invested in those line of
vehicles. They show Stars and You will end up with crap. Ex: Obj 268, when
I got it years ago was a beast, now is a poop. So on and so on. The bright
side is that now they are not alone on the market anymore. If they do that
crap, they will ruin their best sell product -( “World of Planes” was a
total failure, lost the competition to ” WarThunder ” ; ” World of War
Ships” it is still a new product cant sustain them) , most of the casual
clients, even veterans like me will migrate to “Armored Warfare”. Sometimes
You wonder if they wish themselves to get out of business, by being so dam
greedy.
😀 QB do you know u have loader named: captain balls in your centurion
action x
I totally agree with you quicky i hope they will never do that on the live
server
This is why I’ve been playing Armored Warfare instead of World of Tanks. I
haven’t logged into tanks in over a week now, Warships isn’t bad but
they’ve really been gouging on everything.
It’s clearly a money grab, but probably won’t make much difference.
Wallet warriors will still be terrible, high skill players will still be
good and 3 or 5 percent here or there isn’t really that much for most
people, though I understand that it will becoome mandatory for clan wars
and other competitions; which sucks.
There is another issue with this new system in my opinion. WG tries to keep
an element of realism to the game, as much as they can, which I like
personally. Considering that, why the hell would they even consider a
mechanic where the crew gets better just because something is painted on
the tank? I don’t get it…
This is so dumb….. I agree with you QB
Not only do I have all of the Commander emblems, but it seems like I don’t
even have one of the 3% ones mounted on all of my premiums. (nvm, after
watching the rest of the videos the situational ones are the worst)
You can tell the Loader emblems are going to be meta for anything that
isn’t a light tank.
What does Rubicon mean?
WG is going full P2W… One of the worst ideas of WG… 1 or 2% would be ok
by 10% for the loader? This is just sick…
quite surprised at your disdain, QB. however, you’re correct; it’s flat out
pay to win. you’d have to be a basement dweller covered in orange cheese
puff powder in order to keep up with the credit payments.
Well.. you told us that for all the camouflages and inscriptions and
emblems to put on a tier X vehicle will cost us 540 000 credits. I thought
about converting golds in credits; 540 000 credits are 1350 golds and,
thinking about those 300 golds to put on my tank only inscriptions and
emblems this makes me feel a little confused. But if I want to put on even
camouflages they are going to make me pay other 750 golds, to sum up I pay
1050 golds to have everything forever and 540 000 credits (or 1350 golds)
to have all that bonuses for just a month.
I can’t see the point in this system, as always thank you QB for all your
informations 😉 you are the best, greetings from Italy :)
Thank fuck you’re not one of those lousy wallet warriors and oppose this. I
don’t mind it, aslong as the prices are a bit more fucking reasonable.
well now its “free to play” oh wait its “free to pay” total bullshit for
this kinda system. WG u are drunk again….
Quickybaby is right
Well that thoroughly squashes any interest I had in coming back.
yeah, tankers in second world war were better when they had flag or emblen
or whatever on their machine…so real game
Fully agree, really constructive arguments, well done QB
I agree. Even if the silver price went up to 750,000 but was for ever
instead of 30days, then it would change how I feel about using it. But as
of right now with no changes, I just can’t afford either option and that
just sucks.
I have to agree with the rental bullshit, half a mill for a month? Fuc dat
I agree with you QB. I admire your telling it to WG the way it is.
Hey Mister Quickybaby,
I agree with you that this new system is a rather bad idea for two reasons:
First of which you allready statd the pay to win factor. Secondly the fact
that you have to put enmbelms on your tanks even if they look terrible. I
want the “balkenkreuz” on all of my german tanks. Similar on the british
and russian tanks with the red star and the british symbol.
I hope WG is listening to you. Keep up the good work.
Cheers
Totally agree !
So it seems that this very well could be the “true start” of a pay to win
game.
I AGREE!!
WARGAMING NEEDS TO LISTEN TO YOU QUICKYBABY! UR PEIC!
So basically a money grab the way it is. Unless they do what you said about
credits or earning the emblems this is completely broken and is just a
money grab.
just add a 4th equipment slot, theres and idea wg -_-
WG kurwa. I agree with you QB WG only cares about profit.
hey quickybaby i totally agree with you
I’m under 18 years old so i don’t have a jobso i can’t simply invest money
in the game when i want to
once i bought the cromwell B package but that has been my only purchase
anyway so in a few words i can’t afford to spend gold to remain competitive
but at the same time i can’t dedicate too much time to the game
so at the end of the day i have neither gold nor credits to purchase
inscriptions and flags so i’m less competitive than someone who spends
loads of time playing or just empties their pockets at the game
i think as you said that if im paying 540.000 credits i should get to keep
the bonuses
plus its not like i have only one tank that id like to “buff” so its
540.000 times the tank i want to apply it to times the months im going to
keep it
The idea is good and all but it is far from perfect, as pointed out in the
video.
I would prefer to see some of the emblems and inscriptions added to the
game as mission rewards. I am most certainly not going to spend that much
credits on my tanks just to get a small % bonus. Not all players can buy
tons of gold weekly WG!
This is a nice way to use your channel, i agree with your opinion.
wow this is the first time i’ve seen QB ranting about something.. well
anyway great video (y)
I have the bee emblem on all my most loved tanks, paying it with gold, like
many other people did.
Wg should at least let everyone who paid with gold choose another emblem or
inscription for free. Nobody wants to have an unused emblem that has been
paid with real money.
I was kind of hoping for a World of Warships style thing – achievement in
battle gives specific emblem with cap of 1 award per day.
I believe WG could also balance these changes by i) making the credit
purchase (rental system) allow you to install the purchase on one side
immediately also on the other side (like the gold purchase) and ii) reduce
the cost in credits of the emblems, say by making them closer to 50, 000
credit for one month. Effectively, this would reduce the cost of the rental
by more than half, to say 175, 000 credit per month. But yeah, as it is,
their system is pay-to-win.
Its really stupid to add cosmetic things in to the game and then make it so
everyone picks the same things because of competitive bonus that’s really
stupid. I have to agree with QB with this. I dont agree with having prem
ammo, if they just balanced prem ammo and change how much it cost to fire
or just remove the gold purchase of it entirely I would see it to be easier
to swallow.
I agree QB, that is ridiculous to me too
It’s not just cash, but also purely esthetical issue- we’re being forced
into making our tanks look like christmas trees just to remain competitive,
and not just that, but like You said- we’ll have to choose certain
inscriptions or decals which would never crawl up the armor of our tanks
otherwise.
yap I am agree with u
unless you pick the %1 which is useful all the time, all the other’s
depends on meeting a required situation, meaning a lot of times the 3%s are
useless. even if you picked the 1% it’s really just another vents. i really
don’t see why everyone is so upset. it’s also credit bought, not that hard
to make credits in this game. i think this is fine. bring it on.
I’m glad that I’m on Xbox
when i played the testserver and looked at the emblem system i saw the
exact problems your discussing with this video. In my opinion its utter
bullshit. The only reason im using camo and emblems and inscriptions on my
tanks is because there tanks i love and i want to actually look pretty. But
this system makes it insanely unfair. Ive never wanted to have a greater
chance of winning.
maybe One Of your best videos, because for once you’re kickin’ greedy
wargaming’s ass with Wright arguments!
if they keep this greedy pay more or play less, well…just fuck you WG!!!
This system is a massive joke. If I’m paying gold for emblems, I want the
emblem I want to do what I want it to do. Either make it so you can choose
what the emblem you want does to your crew or leave the camo and emblem
system the way it is.
I hate that they are doing this!! Because of the fact that many people out
there won’t even be able to play this game due to the fact that they can’t
even pay for the ingame equipment needed to even play this…this…,”not a
pay to win”, BS* said by the staff at wargaming! No offence wargaming but
you are absolutely no better than any of the other games online if you do
this…so don’t…
Most of us probably agree with you QB, though you are too polite to say
this game mechanic is bullshit in this state.
100% agree with you, first thing Wargaming have done that is super bad,
honestly, they are trying to keep it a slight bit more competitive gaming,
and yes it does seem pay to win, not everyone spends money on games, why
should they have a disadvantage? The only way you should be getting money
from the community wargaming is from players supporting the game by buying
gold, premuim tanks, other things like that, no a pay to win mess like this
idea. Redeem yourself wargaming please, fix this. Im hoping you do send
this quicky, it sounds stupid otherwise haha.
The right time to quit I guess.
wow first time i see quickybaby pissed off with wargaming but he is right
WG don’t care about ppl feelings. Deal with it.
Waste of money
I personally took pride and got great enjoyment out of putting my
inscriptions and sometimes my emblems on my tanks. My VK72.01K for example
has an inscription on it from a Clan Wars mission. What if that doesn’t
give me the bonus I want on the tank? there’s no removing it and putting it
on another tank where it might be more useful. I think this is an
interesting idea, but overall it is implemented very poorly. Now there’s
going to be a lot less personalization among peoples’ tanks because “it’s
not the meta” or “it’s not optimal for the tank”
hey if they put that rent put it at least for 1 year not for 1 one moth
what is that a crap joke hey I I buy something is for ever not rent from a
friend and the players who don’t have gold what they will do they spend
money for gold to have unlimited came an extras this is a bad joke.Quiky
baby hope u will win.
Like aways WG doing unnecessary things in the game and doing nothing for
the problems the game still has like crappy arty mechanics and people using
cheats . Gj wargaming your worst enemy is yourself.
this is really taking the piss now…
Hue hue hue, wargaming you cheeky skrubs. Pay to win completely.
yea, it should be forever :/
Agreed because it’s not fair for just only one mouth . So plz WG make it be
forever
i would hate to have to pay monie into the game just to compte with other
tanks i would stop playing tanks if they bing this sistem in to the game
I totaly egree with QB this is redicelous…. half a million credits is
just umbareble…
I hope they change this bullshit..
So stupid
Lets all not play the game for like 2 or 3 weeks till they fix this lol (If
only)
10.0 won’t be the rubicon update but will be the pay to win update
and to someone that don’t know what rubicon means is: (in piquet) an act of
winning a game against an opponent whose total score is less than 100, in
which case the loser’s score is added to rather than subtracted from the
winner’s.
so this update by what it mean is if a player is good and he kill a bad
player it won’t be so worth it like a good player, but looks like it will
be more like the best player is the one who pay more real money to win the
game, this is the Team Fortress 2 trade mechanics but worse.
But QB what happens if i already buyed summer cammo and flag of my country
on both sides forever (for gold) am I going to buy them again or what?
Because that would be just too stupid to spend 300 all over again or now
even more
Gotta agree with the QB, if implemented as it is now, its a big slap in the
face to the players.
common sence WG, heard about it? i am not so good at english, but i do kick
ass in wot, adn itotally agree with you QB what they are doing is not fair
to anyone, especialy people who are in competetive clans, and getting
forced by there clan to buy it or leave, i am sure that is gonna end up
happening some times, if they don’t change something.
This is nonsense…ripping us off as usual :(
More money making by wargaming. I understand a camouflaged tank makes it
harder to spot that is why camouflage is on real vehicles, but to say a
emblem of a hog on the side of your tank influences your crews performance
is idiotic. Just more ways to milk the people who keep wargaming going the
players
I think this will result in a serious disillusionment for players of all
levels and contribute to an accelerated decrease in the WOT player base.
Wargaming should rather join the few number of companies that outwardly go
against the common money grabs of gaming companies as of late. Respect for
a company by its player base not only helps grow revenue by having more
satisfied players, but also by keeping well paying players and attracting
new players, even if only solely off the company’s good reputation and
respect amongst the community.
They would come for the reputation of wargaming and stay for the fair free
to play experience and gameplay.
Bullshit. Then again, I don’t have camo on my tanks and I don’t think it
loses me that much. 4% more camo doesn’t necessarily mean 4% better
results, 4% more damage, xp and credits. If I cock up, 2% better crew won’t
help me. The main performance factor is still between keyboard and seat.
Totally agree with quickybaby on this one. They need to do the same thing
they did with premium ammo at the very least. 120 gold * 400 credits=48000
per emblem. If they implement it in its current state, it is completely pay
to win. Nobody makes credits quickly enough to spend half a million every
month on keeping their tier 10’s competitive. They need to make bonuses
available for all emblems, so you can pick whichever emblem you want and
apply whichever bonus you want. Otherwise, if you really want to get a
certain emblem/inscription on your tank, but it has a crap bonus, you don’t
want to waste your money on it. This is total bs.
That is 18k credits a day
so i have a question…how much is 540K silver in gold?
Get rid of the rental periods and allow us to choose the bonus attached to
our purchases
100% agree as a good player that doesn’t have a lot of spare time or money
I agree with your statements 100%
fuck the WG
Good video QB.
I would ask that tanks with less emblem slots get compensatedly stronger
bonuses per slots missing and so its fixed. And, that we can choose the
effect of the bonus or inscription, so we can pair our own preferred
effects and bonuses on the look we want. Just select your inscription/logo
pay for it like usual but then choose whatever effect it will have! Please,
rework this WG.
I totally agree with you QB
Am I the only one thinking about rapid fire KV-2?
just worked out it would cost almost 70000 gold to emblem my tanks up :(
QuickyBaby , I agree with you 99%
fuck wargMING
The number of competitive players asked while developing this feature= 0
plus they didn’t even stumbled around the though of impact on the Wot’s ESL
-_- “verry honorable” wargamu gg
It’s silly for them to do this. It almost feels like this has always been a
pay to win game. Thinking about the next update and these changes makes me
feel, like I shouldn’t play the game anymore and always see hidden enemies.
It also seems that getting a SLOT for your garage costs gold… I’ve bought
gold once, but come on… At least make 1 slot for 500K gold or something
similar. I really agree with QB on this one. It really feels like WG is
having a laugh…
all my keeper tanks have perminent inscriptions and emblems. I hope
wargaming unequip already brought stuff othrrwise I could end up with my
kv2 getting cammo bonus or something dumb.
I think its stupid, and it is moving more and more to p2w. Recent moves by
WG (at least in NA and EU) have really shown how they view their customer
base, and this is just the icing on the cake. We are nothing more then
wallets to them and as long as we keep giving them money they dont care.
Stop WG, just stop. The blatant money grubbing with the bundles was bad
enough, but now you having taken it to far.
Thumbs up on the video, huge thumbs down for wargaming. A lot of the money
grabs they scheme up, I’m mostly ok with: it’s a free-to-play game and
that’s how hey make some money. And they mostly target the “whales” rather
than people who just spend a little bit of money here and there. I’ve only
spent $20 on the game over the past year and a half, but I have a lot of
tanks now and I’m a pretty decent player. But I don’t have high-tier
premium vehicles, I don’t have a premium account and I don’t already have
most of the tanks in the game; if I wanted to stay competitive by putting
camos and emblems on the tanks I play a lot, I would have to spend more
money than I was comfortable with or I would be running a near-defecit in
silver costs. I’m already hard-pressed to afford and equip tanks when I’m
buying waves of tier 8’s, 9’s and 10’s. I honestly couldn’t afford it:
in-game or irl. Keep hooking the whales by offering them better earning
abilities, special tanks et cetera, but don’t offer them flat percentage
bonus – that is purely a “pay-to-win” mechanic and it is going to piss off
your player base. This bonus system is going to ruin the in-game economy
for anyone who wants to be a competitive player but is still grinding for
new tanks, it’s going to upset players and it doesn’t even look balanced.
10.0 looks awesome, why tarnish it with such a sloppy, greedy mechanic?
MORE PAY TO WIN YAYYYY!!!!
“stands up and sarcastically applauds wargaming” well the decision between
WOT and other games is becoming easier by the day , still not enough to
stop but it comes close.
at last someone who tells it like it is…..
I hope they are making the purchase with ingame money permanent. Otherwise
I’m not going to use it ever :)
I completely agree with you.
I barely have any gold and really do not think this system is fair.
Pay To Win at its finest. and do not tell me that i can purchase it for
credits because … nah
This is like Signals in World of Warships.. Except that in WoWs you can get
Flags for medals.
I feel this is pay to win ? bj wargaming
WG Money Making Machine….big dislike!
This “pay to win shit” is not funny anymore…(like armor is useless
because GOLD AMMO WILL KILL YOU ANYHOW REGARDLESS OF WHICH TANK YOU ARE IN)
One of many reasons i dislike WG more and more…their are much better and
more fun to play games out there like the WG kind…and i am going that
route after 3 years of WG milking…sad but true.
Sorry WG…but you suck.
Thx Quicky to let the people see what WG is all about in the future…fuck
fun and give us your money if you want to have fun and win…i am done.
If someone wants to buy my account, feel free to ask! ;-)
What this essentially mean, is that people aren’t using enough money and
that is due to maturing player base. And what will someone buy if he
already has everything?
I totally agree with you. I am a player that plays the game only few time a
month so for me to be these 4% “better” and be competive would mean for me
to lose money because it is not possible to gain half a milion for a single
tank + if you are also saving for another tank. Hopefully wargaming are
gonna listen to you as you are person with large impact(a little bit at
least) and do something with it, besause it would be totally pay to win :)
500.000??? FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND CREDITS? 240 to 300? TWO HUNDRED FORTY TO
THREE HUNDRED GOLD ON EMBLEMS? All of that for EACH TANK??
Aww HELL NO!!
lol WG, this is just start to be ridiculous. I already lost my intrest in
this game, and I think this is the last nail in the coffin. Except QB’s
videos of course, you produce quality content. It’s always good to watch,
despite I don’t play this game anymore.
if this system goes into the game, i say byebye world of tanks. we had a
good 5year run.
hello armored warfare please dont do the same mistake
P2W confirmed
Totally agree with you QB ^.^
Thanks QB. I appreciate your comments and agree with you. I’d go so far
as to say “yes” to the “permanent rental” cost even if it were double or
triple the current monthly rental if that meant I could have it
permanently.
Yes, I agree with you.
i’ll just have default tanks with no camo and shit, just like early wot
was.
people still play wot?? come to AW were they dont steal your money for a
fart and you dont win with gold..
Playing for a 3 years now with Premium Account, mostly to grind faster and
earn more. Also, financing T10 and T9 games but did not have a feeling like
have to “Pay 2 win”… now, I am not so sure and this is making me
disappointed in one hand. Especially being a part of WOT community for so
long time. I know WG is doing this for profit increase but QB, you have
every right and argument to point out this radical and obvious change of
course…. WG, be careful with your next move or the players will start
felling as being robbed… I am sure you do not want that or your “Q4 2015
Profit increase attempt” may become a big FAIL! Thank you…
ok I’m a casual wot player I never spent any real life money to get gold
and it took me over a year just to get a tier 5 premium vehicle to be able
to grind nearly as much money as I need to play with my loved JGPZ E100 and
now the wargaming want me to spend hilarious amounts of money just to buy
freakin’ emblems to my tanks EVERY MONTH! thank you wargaming… …totally
not a pay-to-win game? BULLSHIT
Why wont Wargaming put prehistoric emblem that we could buy, like the sexy
women is every war movies or maybe maybe hitler?
I agree with QuickyBaby…. This new system shouldn’t be implemented unless
they remove the silver creds rental system…. Remember, most of us here
are playing for fun and not competitive…. If this is implemented, we
can’t have fun anymore since competitive players will have a way higher
bonuses than us…
once you buy it it should be available on every tank you own in that
nations
This is such a dumb idea that is coming out now I am going to have to
change my tanks customization that I took time to take.
*waves goodbye at wot*
Totally agree, this thing is pay 2 win bullshit…i never even knew the
camo’s would give a bonus camo factor..and now you can pay 2 win even more .’
stupid greedy wg
Thanks a lot for speaking from our position QB. And I think you are right.
Personally I used camo just for the looks, but it’s going to become very
expensive which I don’t like. Also, I’m becoming a better player quickly,
so that also means I have to go use these new features too. Now, I don’t
have a lot of gold (none actually). So jeez, this is going to be
expensive….
Thx for the video QB. I hope this is going to be re-thought.
This move has DEFINITELY turned WoT into a pay to win. Now, the only way to
really be competitive as an average player is to either invest in some gold
or play this game virtually non-stop to make up the credits
yay more pay2win hey wg gues what you wont grow with that attitude. If this
goes through im out of this game.
Your right. I said it on stream and I’ll say it again. Wargaming make
rubicon spectacular, not regrettable.
players who earn alout of gold by clan wars like FAME. have no problem with
this.this update is handy for realy good clan wars players. who earn over
100.000 gold per month
WOW QB – YOU HAVE REALLY GONE UP IN MY ESTIMATION!!!! GREAT!!! This is a
terrible idea – since some people have more money than sense; they’ll just
buy the gold and click – thinking nothing about the ethical implications.
If they do implement this system – then they should not claim its a Play
for Free Game….its a Pay to Win game.
Frankly it just appears to be another way to squeeze money out of the
players. Everyone wants to be competitive and it is certainly a loss if you
play against others with the emblems and camo.
I have enormous opportunities to satisfy my wishes.
LOL. Gonna be my new life principle.
Perfect arguments QB! I hope they will keep their player base happy! All
your fans will still get “baby in tank” though. Poorly it’s for the loader.
Change that!
I stopped playing world of tanks, this makes me want to never come back.
I like that they are doing this but really it will really change the
balance of the game
I hope that Armored Warfare are taking notes on this because I see them as
our final hope for a good F2P tank game
Yes quickybabytv I am totally with you re part this I very expensive
This is just a new level of cash grab when WG has already been in serious
moneygrab mode for 2 months now.
And I hate this one more, for all the reasons QB outlined. Bit the worst
for me is now having to choose between having an emblem you want because
you think it looks cool, and having an emblem you don’t like because you
want the bonuses.
If, like camo, all emblems had the same effect I’d probably be OK with it.
Then you could pick something you wanted for looks (I’d camoed most of my
keeper tanks when they were still purely cosmetic) and the mechanical
effect would just be a bonus. Or if you were dead set on having a bonus you
could just pick which one looked best to you because they all do the same
thing.
People are saying pay to win………my ass you can have camo, emblems, and
inscriptions but a good player will always be a good player and a bad
player will be bad
In complete agreement. In WoWS I can win signal flags in game.
this might actually get me move to armored warfare, i hate these p2w
mechanics
Wargaming is just trying earn as much money as they can. Game is getting
played less and less and it means they have to do something.. One way is
solve the problems. Other is to make people pay more money for gold by
releasing new OP premium tanks or this crazy feature. I’m fed up with
this.. And I’m normal player -> Fin4LTelcontar. Have a nice day!
atleast I got 1 year ago free camoflage for clan wars.
u should be able to attach the bonus to wat eblem you want and everything
that quickybaby said
absolutly your correct and I wholeheartidly agree im a 4 year premium
member of wot..
The least they could let you do is CHOOSE the bonus you get. I want to keep
my four leaf clovers on my AMX12t, but I want loading bonuses.
interesting idea, but a lot of problems too. its really costly, some of the
emblems look really stupid ( why not some authentic looking ones) and the
fact that some tanks get a better bonus is dumb. I also dont like the idea
that they are only active some of the time. its a lot to pay for an
uncertain amount of benefit.
This is going out of hand! They are definately becoming a big time money
machine! The first atraction of this was, that is was free! FREE! The money
is everywhere now a days! WG is ruening the game – all the focus, from my
perspective (and fellow members) has gone towards the money they make..
Ones i didnt even think bout gold, but its definately becoming a money
machine and people can now “buy winrate etc” in they way that, people who
is spending money will have a bigger chance of succes!
//suicidemoose @ 322
2.69k WN8
Overpriced, and let’s not forget most of the emblems are bleeding ugly.
These are quite risky moves that wargaming is doing for patch 10.0… take
a note that armored warfare came out in open beta, they could lose a large
number of players.
I think the pay to win through the emblems is utterly terrible since it
removes the skill/time invested aspect from the game in order to win
This is bull. I don’t like to have the inscriptions and emblems on my tanks
anyway. So they are forcing me to put something on my tank that I
completely dislike just to be competitive. If they do this I am definitely
giving this game up. I already have a hard enough time trying to grind out
credits and trying to be competitive. Now they are giving people that have
deep pockets and high skill players even more of a chance to kill you. They
are completely killing off their casual gamer community. I came to this
game because I didn’t have to pay to play with the knowledge that I could
pay a little extra every now and again to make the grind easier for me.
They are making this game an even more pay to win game then it already is.
I am definitely going to put my time and money into Armored Warfare. I am
tired of being cheated by Wargaming when this game is supposed to be a free
to play game and a fun experience. They are absolutely killing this game.
Rant Over…
They are turning it to pay to play and not everyone has the chance spend
money on GAME.
This is so unfair for many people who want to have fun.
They’re ruining the game for many people
Absolute fucking garbage, my play style is a brawling style, formerly I
rarely put camo on any of my tanks. but in my last 5k games I’ve played a
lot more medium and light tanks and found it necessary. As I don’t have too
man of those it wasn’t beyond me to use credits on the meds and LTs i was
playing. But having to do it on every tank I want to play? fucking madness,
it will be like when brand new players go into games without equipment or
consumables, a big disadvantage and i don’t have the time for paying with
credits nor the inclination to spend gold on this crap.
This is ridiculous. The thing that makes world of tanks so special to me is
the fact that a person who spends real money doesn’t have an advantage over
any other player. With this change world of tanks is just becoming like all
those other pay to win games.
I think that this is intresting QB,its not big deal but its something rigth
:D
just give us the option to buy the camo/insignia/inscription for silver at
x400 conversion rate, as with premium ammo…
and standarize the tanks to have equal number of slots for them
I was so disappointed to WG for such a pussy kind of move to the way of
Pay2Win but nice to see that someone agrees. I probably quit WoT if it gets
shitter. GG WG.
Adding this system… only shows what money hungry bastards WG really is.
Forcing us to pay even more money on a game that was once called “FREE TO
PLAY” Well sure, you can play the game for free, but with all these
knicknacks of “Buy Premium Camo” “Buy Gold Ammo” “Buy Gold Emblems” “Buy
Gold Tanks”… I do not consider that Free to play anymore. That is just
discrimination of the gamers who have no money, or do not want to pay real
money in order to be able to compete with more hardcore players.
Not to mention, with today’s economy and the fact that getting a job these makes it even impossible to actually be
days is hard as fuck because
able to pay for anything the like.
I am not sure if I want to continue the play this game further if they
actually go through with this. It is as CloakingDonkey explained in one of
his videos in world of warships. He gave exact reasons why he quit playing
WG’s games and this kind of action on WG’s behalf is just a perfect example
for his and my reason. If they add this feature, I will play for maybe a
month, if I notice that I don’t stand a chance at all anymore thanks to
this bullcrap I am certain to quit, which would sadden me because I
genuinly enjoyed the game…
thank you quickybaby , for standing with us against this “new” pay to win
system !
i agree i am in the posisition you are saying
I agree with getting rid of the rental period and just let me keep it.
Making half a million credits takes quite awhile for me.
Wargaming you greedy bastards!
I agree get rid of the rental idea but increase the credit cost 500k at t10
is cheap for a permanent affect that’s a t8 price t9 should be 750k 1 mill
at t10 and I would be fine with it far as a total price for each tier with
everything put on 1 tank as it still would encourage gold sales for a great
game since players can be impatient with grinding and still don’t make the
game one sided for others thanks for an other good video qb nice job
putting your thoughts together on the subject that you clearly dont support
yet not go on ranting over
WG seems to go from Pay to play to equal and unbiased gaming on cycles.
They want all the cash they can get, but when they see they are losing
players, implement changes that even things out. I think, if this comes out
with no changes, I will change my game play to any other game that will be
able to ensure that you can’t pay to win, my pocket is empty enough without
having to spend extravagantly to enjoy my leisure time.
Good points.
WoT = P2W Nothing else to say.
I bought camo on all my new tanks thinking that it gave 5% increase on camo
ratings, lol. Not anymore. 2% on TD camo is bullshit.
There is for the loader a 3% bonus, if you have >80% of your HP. That would
be smart on artys. So if i use that an the Conqueror Gun Carrier with two
loaders, so i will get 4*3% and that *2 because of two loaders so the CGC
will reload 24% faster or what?
gg
was close
WG has their hand in the greed jar again. Just hope that they’ll tweak this
before it’ll come on console. They really need to redo this system before
torches and pitchforks are going for them.
If this stays, that’ll be more incentive for me to favor AW more really
over WoT simply put :P
I need to sell my account before they destroy this game further
Totally Agree with you QB. But Since when did WG care about what the
Players Say? They’ll just ignore the feedback, and Implement it with some
Lame excuse Justifying it.
not one who has much in the way of disposable income, now that I’m retired,
this system would make it damned near impossible to keep up with the wallet
warriors out there. and just trying to keep up with the graphics in the
gaming industry is getting prohibitive enough.
this is stupid, I already have to rent my camos because I don’t want to use
gold as it’s mega expensive and this is going even further…. also note
I’m a console peasant so having missions and “sales” on items of equipment
etc never happen on consoles so for me this only means I pay even more than
the pc community to be competitive :(
if they implement this system, i will be very dissapointed. That is pure
greed
Below 1000 and this new system is BS. So all my Canadian flags and
inscription are going to do weird things to my tanks. If the bonus they
give aren’t relevant to the tank?
Example
M4 Sherman 2 Canadian flag= all around crew bonus
Inscription 1 side: Hell on wheels.
What if the inscription give a bonus to the tank while stationary for more
then 30 seconds. I am in a medium tank I move around alot.
pay to win shit
half a mill credits FUCK THAT SHIT
EZ money bois #WarGamingCheapShits
this is only remotely fair if you get rewarded gold for achieving epic
medals or something like that.
greedy wargaming is greedy.
Completely agree Quickybaby – pure Wargaming greed which sadly seems to be
increasingly becoming common in the game. All these stupid packages for
premium vehicles and then this. Seems like P2P is the model WoT is pursuing
these days.
Totally agree with you, wargaming is crazy if the imploment it like this…
It was always a pay2win game but this is just no no no way to much
wargaming way to much… :(
Can’t agree more QB
hmm the direction this game is going , i dont quite know , on the fence atm
Hummmm…. I sense a pay to win coming in update 10.0. Oh wait…
What do you think of the proposed changes? Do you guys agree with me?
i dont spend money on free games so i agree that this maybe new system is
stupid
Oh, and thanks for speaking on our behalf QB.
Well said, QB.
I hope this doesn’t come on console like this
WG need to make a 1day Slot so You can buy camo and Emblems only on days
when you play with tank what u want.
So if I like an emblem or inscription but it has a pointless activation
period, then using it’s a disadvantage? great…
WG wants to earn money off thier games without ppl haveing to buy the games
since you earn more by microtransactions but this is just greedy especially
for the people like quickybaby and circon for example who has tons of
tanks, the problem is that WG knows that people will pay for the bonuses or
else they will have a disadvantage to some people.
So quickybaby don’t fall for their trap and only buy emblems and
inscriptions for your most favourite tanks such as the comet.
also if you rent for 500k+ 4% crew and camo thats almost as much as a set
of vents for 500k or 600k credits.
Wargaming is really trying to make World of Tanks a dead game.
This is such a disgrace by WG, paytowin has finally arrived.
Thank you Quickybaby for not freaking out, means WG will listen to your
opinion instead of ignoring you.
why adding so much things trying to be innovative and fresh,and not
repairing already broken or not working good, adding this,seems like WG
wants to WoT to be a Need for speed underground 2 son,with all that visual
tunning, I mean,the visuals were already a thing,yes,but this is like
forcing them,now everybody will drive their tanks if like it was a 5 de
mayo parade
Gay as fuck… Pay 2 win confirmen…
This is a stupid idea… wargaming stop being cheap!
This hasn’t been introduced to milk the EU server. This has been introduce
to milk Quicky baby
This is so unfair
games rng is through the roof as it is .Why not throw an entire new
dimension of rng on top. yet nation vs nation match making was bad… the 1
game mode that removed the MESS that is wot..
This system is scummy in every way.
wtf talk abaut pay 2 win !!!!
this basictly a new level of pay more to have better chance to win
* with some bad deal
* with non balance emblem
so this is 80% bullshit
So… Will I lose all the shit I’ve got when this update comes?
This looks like a big learning curb
dam i thought i was going to be the first one to comment lol, good video
quickybaby :D
HA I WIN