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World of Tanks | How To Play Paper Mediums Game Play Tutorials
So I made a great tutorial all about playing mediums, but that was the T54-Mod 1 and that is an OP Beast!!!!! Viewers asked Can I do a Tutorial with Mediums with no Armour…… Here it is, please enjoy.
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Nice one Sir Havoc ! thanks for your nice videos.
The panther 2 isn’t a paper medium in any way, and you didn’t play it like
one either as without your armour you would have lost the game
Very nice replay Havoc, best tutorials on WoT by far! Just a question
though, did you really needed to fire all those APCR shells? Against hull
down T32 yeah, but the rest?
you chanel is awesome.nice video,
Hello Sir Havoc, I would love to play (and learn!!) with you guys but i’m
based on the asia server (Australia). Do you have/know any players on the
asia server? (sorry if this is obviously linked somewhere, i cant find it.)
Another gr8 video SirHavoc!
BTW what mods is he using any idea?
Since when panther 2 is a paper armor tank?!?! grab a leo 1, the p2 is a
beast. Sorry but wrong tank mate and misleading video.
GREAT VID. I just wish you were in NA damnit. :(
This was great. Can you show us how to play when you’re NOT top tier? Like
a tier 8 in a tier X game?
top be fair @ 3:14, when shooting @501m, and not fully aimed, that isn’t
bad rng, that was a bad shot. was expecting more from ya tho, you are far
better than i am, but
what pisses me off, when i do that at 360m, in a dicker max(.36) fully
aimed, and leading a bit
“The Road To Tank Fest Give Away”
You planning on making an NA clan? I might join that :D
Please.. sloped 100mm armor on the UFP doesnt quailify as paper armor…
had you been in the STA 1 you would not have bounced that shot from the
Kv85 nor from the Hellcat and thus you wouldnt have been able to carry like
this… dont get me wrong, this is still a great video and it is helpful…
but the Panther II doesnt have paper armor… its pretty shitty armor but
Very nice. Any chance of showing that in a paper tier 10 medium? Leopard
1, for instance?
Sir Havoc, I understands that generally MT don’t have much armor but the
slope of Panther 2 is actually quite acceptable for me. I had bounced many
shells before and sometimes lower caliber guns just bounce right off.
I believe when it comes to paper armor, we should consider the following
tanks who in my opinion are much ‘softer’ yet possess their individuality
German: Leapord 1 or PTA
French: Lorraine & Batchat.
Japanese: Well… most of them are soft.
Badly armored tanks are some of the hardest to carry in and compared to the
T54 video, this wasn’t really THAT much of a carry I’d say. The 112 did
well at base and without him I’d say this would have been a loss. The
Panther doesn’t have the speed to quickly poke over the ridge, the turret
armor to take hits over the ridge or gun depression to handle a decap like
that on its own. It worked thanks to the 112 being there no matter who
actually got the kills.
Still a good game though and it showed some teamwork and how to take
advantage of a friendly taking fire. I’m sure plenty of people can learn
from that. 🙂
Oh, and to all the people saying Panther II doesn’t have paper armor: Armor
is only worth having *if* you have enough of it to rely on it. The Panther
II does not so you need to play the tank as if you didn’t have any. Then
I’d much rather have 50 mm of armor and gain some mobility from the weight
loss. The Panther II’s armor may be able to bounce some stock tier VIs once
in a while but even then you can’t rely on it. Against anything its own
tier, all the armor does is slow it down.
Once again great job showing how to play.
If I may suggest or rather ask for more videos about maps? You know, where
to go in which tanks, good spots etc. That would be great :P
Great as always.
Sir havoc. Liking you work. It has been helpful. Just wondering if you have
a NA franchise?
Sir Havoc, The Panther 2 has paper armour? And what is your favorite tech
tree, Favorite type of tank ” medium heavy ect” and favorite path of tanks
“As in German medium path Panthers”
does he have a clan for bad peeps in NA?
Nice video. I especially like the comment that just because the heavy in
front of you moved forward does not mean you needed to follow. I tend to
be too aggressive in my play style, something you pointed out on other
players in this video. Now to practice being selective in my support
without camping excessively.
Another cracking video! Always very helpful. Thanks mate for your advice
and I look forward to your next one.
can we get a tutorial on tanks with no gun depression?
btw great job
+autotune jesus One of the best ways to fight in tanks w/ horribad gun
depression is to reverse up the slope of a hill to shoot over an undulation
in front of you and then go forwards back down into cover (uses elevation
instead of depression to acquire shots) this is especially useful in high
tier chinese mediums. city maps with level ground are also good for these
tanks w/ bad gun depression. you will notice they have very large caliber
high alpha guns, and they lend to a brawler play style.
nice and easy to understand i play for 2 years but its steel good to remind
my seft the basic stuff thanks Sir Havoc
there are some 3 levels of armor for medium tanks.
1.Paper is amx cdc, japanese tanks, etc – tanks that get penetrated by HE.
2. Cardboard is panther 2, m46 patton, t44, centurion mk1 – tanks that can
troll but will generally have difficulties bouncing the russian 122mm (175
pen) if they are not in hull down or sidescrapping position.
3. Russian is t54, obj 140, a44, t62 hul down – because fastest mediums
deserve most armor, right?
panther 2 paper armor?? this is ridiculous… have you ever played amx cdc
or leo pta or type 61? put some of your time in playing leo 1 on tier 10
and you’ll see wha paper armor is. If you can take an HE shell in the front
an laugh it of, you don’t have paper armor.
+Adrian Perovic You don’t seem to get armor. It doesn’t matter if you have
100 mm or 50 mm when people have 200+ pen. Both 100 and 50 is “no armor” at
that point. I’d take the 50 mm over the 100 mm at higher tiers every single
time. All the Panther II’s armor does is slow you down. If you can’t rely
on your armor, you need to play like you don’t have any. Then you might as
well not have any and gain some mobility.
+Gnawer Shreth Of course it matters. Extremely low armor means it can be
penetrated by High-Explosive shells and also be overmatched.
+Citronvand Oh yeah, all of those HE rounds spammed at higher tiers in WOT.
Overmatch or regular pen, who gives a shit? Both of them do damage to you.
If a Tiger II or whatever shoots you, he pens. If he shoots at a guy with
50 mm and overmatches.. Guess what, he pens. It makes no difference.
Overmatch is a problem for tanks who *do* have armor. Like some of the
heavy tanks with a very weak turret roof. Then it becomes the obvious
weakspot. Because the top of the turret is usually extremely sloped, having
100 mm of armor there would effectively make it an autobounce zone. If the
armor is too thin, it overmatches and doesn’t bounce.
The Panther II doesn’t have that problem. There’s no autobouncing. They can
just shoot right through his front plate, so having 50 mm instead would
make no difference since it already pens now.
If he had 50 mm of armor, he would be a lot faster though so he might not
have been hit in the first place.
+Gnawer Shreth Your loss if you don’t use HE on artillery and paper tanks.
You would have a point if the accuracy was perfect in WoT, but like we both
know it isn’t. Especially after the accuracy nerf. Therefore the shell will
occasionally hit the wrong place and could auto-bounce due to the angle
even if you normally would have penetrated the target. Now if it was a
paper tank and you overmatched the armor this wouldn’t matter.
+Citronvand I’ll use HE if there’s a single guy leaf on my flank or if
there’s a guy with like 50 HP left. I’m not driving around with HE loaded
just in case. What would I do if I had HE loaded and didn’t mean the paper
tank but met his friend in the E100 or whatever instead? 😉
Accuracy is still way too good in WOT. You can reliably hit weak spots and
that’s all you really need. They never should have buffed the accuracy so
much back in.. I don’t remember the patch number anymore. Some years ago
Yes, the point isn’t that the Panther II will *never* bounce a shot. We saw
that happen right here in the video after all. The point is you can’t rely
on it, so you need to play as if you don’t have any armor. If you have to
play as if you don’t have any armor, you might as well not have it and gain
the extra mobility from that. (Basically become Leopard-ish.)
Love tutorials, have been playing a couple of years have 20k or so battles
so enjoy the
game but i make no excuses my stats aren’t very good, now i usually end up
in the top half of my team almost every time. Problem is, i just don’t have
the reaction speed
to deal with multiple targets at the same time and i so struggle with
I have multiple sclerosis and a chronic nerve disorder..so yes i will
with reaction time, and addressing those. And a trend i seen in the game is
away from tank destroyers and the slower more heavily armored
the bush cover and lanes of fire. Mostly by putting a lot of undulations
ridge lines. What are your thoughts on the standing in the game of these
in the game?
That Steve kid is a douche bag, doesn’t know what happens and trying to
rally both teams to report him. What a little cry baby. The way you auto
aimed at the 304s driver at the end was pretty cool tool, normally auto aim
goes for the center of the tank but yours locked right into that driver
Sir this is just what I wanted thank you
This is some good stuff.When I saw the title I was hoping that youd be
playing in the STA-1 because Im having problems with that one and its
definitely a paper tank, I love it but I just cant play it
Another great tutorial m8!Looking forward to join you for a few tomorow on
+Sir Havoc I want to take part in training and improving my play style with
your clan but I am already in a clan. Do you have any suggestions?
Geat tutorial love iT can Udo more on tier6 fortification tactics
0:47 was that bird shit?
But very good video Pete
Thanks m8 working on running Panther to Panther 2!! Good video!
Nice boss :)
Nice video lad but paper armour is not in the panther II.
I rather say mediocre armour than paper…
Paper armour is definitely CDC level, of unprotection what is overmatched
even by 90 mil HE shells.
But you definitely enlightened in the game.
Keep up the good work.
Agreed… Panther II has some armor, whereas the leo 1, cdc and tanks like
that don’t have any armor at all
Paper armour: when a tank can be easily penned by anything it faces.
Therefore panther2 is paper.
Leo, cdc etc have NO armour. Theres a difference.
Sir Havoc, to join your clan to help people who are bad at the game, do you
have to be able to talk on teamspeak ? i have teamspeak but not a working
mic, so i can hear people but not talk
nice Tutorial, i will try to get my stats up in my cromwell, cause i play
td’s too much… 🙁
keep the vids coming, they are great! how can i join the uni?
greets from a dutchy
One of my favorite tanks Panther II!! Great vid mate!!
Great video havoc
joined the clan today. Sir havoc could you show us how to locate and find
hulldown positions in WOT. And how to use them effectively, it’s important
for me because i have a 113 and i want to learn how to use hull down
tactics in it.
that was epic with the paper armor tank, keep them coming Sir Havoc..O7
I am happy to see that our comments don’t go on deaf ears. :)
Havoc.. Is it possible that you can make a modpack of your mods. Like
circon and quicky does. Like your setup much better then they have. If not
a modpack, maybe you can make a video of what mods you use and how you
He uses Aslian’s but i dont know where that stuff is on the modpack
Why do people dislike your videos? There is nothing to dislike….I think
your videos are awesome, and very helpful, ty.
I’m sure you’ve read this countless times, but I really enjoy watching your
videos. I started off with quickybaby and jingles, and after finding your
channel I have continued to learn and improve myself even further after
watching everything they’ve put up on youtube.
Thnx Havoc that really helped☺
can you do that without all those mods and without gold ammo?
+larsvd meyde sorry if it sounds sassy
+larsvd meyde yeah ofc I can bro, I loaded gold to Make sure because it was
a game decider when they were capping after that I forgot to switch back as
many of us do. I am only human like you bro 🙂
maybe then it was just me, because when I paid attention to your ammo I
mostly saw gold loaded. and I NEVER use gold
ooh and I don’t know if I am actually learning from it but not noticing it
or I really don’t (1550+ WN8 and 2200+ over the last 1K battles)
Hi, just wondering if we could get some cdc gameplay as it’s my only
premium and I just cant do that well in it, topping out at meh almost every
game. I would really like some tips in it. Thanks 🙂
Edit: Especially on city maps
Check WoT replays. Player Havoc199. 1800 Base XP in the CDC.
Really recommend for CDC gameplay.
That gold ammunition was wasted though…
New channel for me.Great tips,cheers.
You sound a bit like SunlightBlade
Your videos are awsom!only 1thing the picture of a video is terrible looks
like some porn from the 80 CHANGE that stile and you will have more viwes
Could be worse you could be in a CDC, good commentary as usual – helping to
bring up my stats even further and to make me more aware on the battlefield
thanks again – keep it up! Beast
Jamie Oliver… u make WOT tutorials now?… Damn u man… u are good at
everything!!! just joking… nice vids… best of luck
Thank you. The Panther II is a great tank. You almost have to play it like
a TD. The reload time of the gun and the paper armor make it rough to play
head to head.
Should have loaded HE for hellcat, would have taken less damage and killed
+Shaz Widhani good advice mate
+Shaz Widhani HE is unreliable in clutch situations like that one was…
had one of his shots went into the tracks or not penetrated he would have
+Shpee with open turreted tanks if you are shooting HE aim at the side of
+Alex AKaravas Hey Alex thanks mate
nice vid! i had a heck of a time in the t20 and pershing trying to get to
the sides of enemies. i think i did better in those than the panther II
though, probably because i got overconfidant with that gun on the panterII
keep ’em coming!
+Briarus HECATONCHEIRES thanks mate, i love the panther 2 also!!
Plays “paper” medium. Gets steel wall
hey, how do you find the st emil? i still have it stock and i hate it sooo
much!! i just can’t get decent games…any suggestions? thanks :)
+Shaz Widhani yea but what can you do with 169 mm of pen? i can’t even pen
most tier 8 tanks…and the accuracy sucks .’ can’t hit where i aim even if
i fully aim every shot
+Tenky Tenks I will always be honest with you guys, I am not a good Tank
destroyer player unless that TD has a Turret. the St I would utilise view
range gun and its main thing Gun Depression
+Tenky Tenks The St. Emil was playable before the nerf. Now it doesn’t even
have the view range advantage, so it’s pretty terrible.
Best way to play it is to use ridge lines. Watch where enemies are looking.
The second they look away punish them for it. I had many 3-4k damage games
with the stock gun.
With the top gun you can also use this tactic just more agressively or you
can also snipe. This depends on the map. Open maps or flat maps I try to
snipe any map with ridges or bumps etc is a massive ‘come here’ sign for
Personally I think it is a terrible tank but you can have great games in
it. Also dont lose heart the next one in the line is well worth it.
Rhm Borsig is incredible. Not as good as the OP ISU-152 but still a very
+M.H.B yea i try to use ridges as much as possible but i always get city
maps when playing it D:
ROFL. I’m pretty certain you just outed Steveo… 1:40 – “Steveo is one of
our gays from W-Uni2″…. I’m not judging but I think you should have
given him the opportunity to make is orientation public…
+Orban Miklos thanks bro 🙂
Great vid :)
+Ian Love cheers Ian
Very nice, good video – cheers.
+Ginge nice one Ginge
Sweet just the thing I needed 🙂 +1
+Matas Jauniskis cool man
Nice vid man :)
+Pack No cheers pack
So I made a great tutorial all about playing mediums, but that was the
T54-Mod 1 and that is an OP Beast!!!!! Viewers asked Can I do a Tutorial
with Mediums with no Armour…… Here it is, please enjoy.
Try the cdc, now that has paper armor the most it has is 34mm
+mat24ist I <3 my CDC, earns tonnes and 3k damage games are no surprise
+George State to play the m4
Do a how to play top tier TDs
+Sir Havoc how to play bottom tier arty?