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The VK 30.02 (M) is kind of the original Panther tank. But the first one is the VK 30.02 (D) which later evolved into
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The problem they ran into is that their tanks are legit finnish when they are invading from Ukraine belarus and that stuff
Funny easter egg
Dodn’t know that a company that makes trucks and buses used to make a beast of a tank ☠️
All Old Car Plane and ship Companies Did that.
Yes, it’s very funny when you realize this for the first time
Is that a company of heroes pfp?
Yes, CoH2 Spearhead doctrine
Most of t34s in 1941 was destroyed by the panzer3. The t34 wasnt a problem for the germans from the start. What they did with the kv1 is disable the tracks and let the infantry deal with ith with satchel charges
Yes
It was Hitler who thought bigger tanks were needed
@@RemnantovShorts indeed
The kv still posed a problem and as much as i despise saying this, the t34 was numerous enough to also cause a problem for the pz3
First off, the panzer IV was not used for tank to tank tell much later in the war, the majority of tank to tank engagements during operation Barbarossa were the Panser III with the long 50mm, the Panzer IV was mostly used against fixed positions such as bunkers and it didn’t receive the upgrades for fighting tanks till after the first few engagements with the KV1 and 2
Also when germany attacked Russia the T34 and KV1 had been in service for a bit, the KV1’s prototype was used against a Finnish unit and the T34 was also built around the same time to make a better tank to assist the KV1
The panther was initially designed upon seeing the first IS1 in combat, which was an IS1 prototype built in like late 1942 early 1943, which was the made hitler rush the already brewing VK program
The Panther was not the response to the T34 or the KV1. It was a response to the IS1
I highly doubt that the panther was created in response to the IS-1 as only 207 were ever produced and it was a stop gap for the IS-2 which saw production of up to 4000 units produced. I’ve looked on a few sites that all say its a response to the T-34 mainly and the KV-1
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The VK program officially started in 1938 but didn’t really get anywhere till 1939, it received extra funding and more priority after the first sightings of the IS1
The t34 was also a terrible tank, Panzer III’s would easily tear through them, the KV1 had no visibility so german tank crews quickly started flanking maneuvers on them and getting to the side of them.. a better tank to say was a response to the KV1 and 2 was the Panzer III Ausf. J and the Panzer IV. Ausf. G, the IV version being a little later
The panther was originally designed to fight the KV’s yes, but with the appearance of the IS1 germany rushed it faster to ensure they wouldn’t get out armored
@@CrazyGamer-ip2wd Look the T-34 in no was was an amazing tank but it wasnt completely terrible, crude yes, terrible for crews yes and theres a lot of problems but there were also many variants of the T-34 but thats not the point here. The Germans outflanked the KV-1 because it was slow and the tank barely saw any production and service and was to test for soviet heavy designs. I dont think Panzer III’s could ‘easily’ tear through them. Germany themselves were surprised at the tanks capabilities. Look we could go for hours over the T-34. Going back to the panther. The program was likely postponed when it was initially started as the the tanks germany possessed performed and functioned well in terms of other european Armies by 1940. The IS-1 had the same 85mm gun and turret from the T-34 although possessing a more armored Chasis, again my point is barely any were produced and is highly unlikely many saw combat again only 207 were made. Germany at the time too was also in a bit of a panic as the eastern front stagnated and they were starting to get pushed back and the 6th Army was gone and general Paulus. The Rushed design is true as the Panther D was pretty bad performance wise. It had a terrible drive train that wouldnt get it far and the engine had a high chance of combusting in flames. It struggled to make it to the battlefield. I still think they made it due to the later variants of the T-34 in 1943 (that being the 76 with a slightly improved hull) and the fact that the east was struggling. Yes the designs existed prior to the collapse of the east but I looked online rn about comparisons of the 34 and the panzer III and shorter barreled panzer IV’s. The T-34 did outclass and outgun the III and was theoretically more superior to the IV. Germany also didnt have an abundance of Panzer IV’s. Germany went into barbarossa with mainly Panzer III’s with 50mm guns and thinner armor and panzer II’s and panzer 38t’s and stug III’s. The tanks such as the Panzer III struggled with 34’s due to its sloped armor and better main gun. The panzer II’s and 38t’s didnt fair any better as you can imagine. infact the Marder was made because of how obsolete the t38 became coming up against T-34’s
Well more specifically in 1941 the panzer 4 wasn’t used for anti-tank purposes, but rather as an infantry support vehicle due to its short barrel. The panzer 3 was used for anti-tank purposes but was quickly outmatched by the tanks in the video.
The long barrelled panzer 4’s came somewhat later and we’re capable of dealing with t-34’s and kv1’s, but the German high command still desired a more powerful vehicle, which incidentally was already in development since 1938
Yes this is true
Inaccurate pngs bruh
It’s an easter egg
I cant fail to notice the finnish panzer 4s in the operation barbarossa from those symbols i can confirm its finnish ive seen one in real life (SUOMI PERKELE)
Good easter egg?
The Panther killed half og the t-34’s
nice
The Panther not Is the t34 Copy! Is older than t34
First prototypes of the tank that would become the T-34 started in 1937. Before the panther was an idea
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Because it sucks (I by the way, have no problem with onions)
Why it’s in the tech tree though is anyone’s guess lol
Gaijin wanted to lengthen the grind
HOI4 interface, war thunder themed, and COH2 portrait. Gamer moment.
+ Papers please music
Truly a moment
Ye more lighter
Less armor does make it lighter
Oh yea I’m warthunderplayer1 still with different name
Soviet onion
soviet onion
the papers please theme in the background
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It was rejected due to it being in fact a germanized version of the t-34
Not really, they didnt bother about that, however they disliked the engine layout of Daimler Benz as well as, Daimler Benz didnt fully follow the requirements, such as the turret ring diameter, as such they decided for MANs.
Bro got the finnish tanks there at the start?
They aint german to my eye
It’s nice to see that you spotted my little detail
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At that 10 second mark you showed three finnish Panzerkampfwagen IV AUSF. J tanks. Those ones with that finnish white and blue marks came from Germans furing continuation war and were used in Finland till 1960s. I have seen and touched the one in Parolan Panssarimuseo. Somehow scary tank if you really think about it. Greetings from finland
It’s nice that you can notice these small details, and yes once you see a real Panzer IV you no longer will disrespect it
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Papers please theme
I put the songs in the description so you can check there in the future
Soviet Onion what!😂☠
It comes in layers
first you have the habitable layer
then the oil layer
and then if you get far enough: the wasteland
“the truth about VK.30.02” precedes to spit the most repeated confirmed false narrative known to man, which was also spit out by ss members as part of their pivoting to try and get advisory roles in NATO
The SS and nato? I don’t think those 2 co-existed
Fun fact they saw kv1s and t34 on day one. Its actually the germans fault they lost or more specifically hitlers.
Yes Hitler just wanted bigger tanks
@@RemnantovShorts no not that the planing of the attack and multiple dumb decisions by him not the tanks. There fine
Like for spearhead doctrine
world of tanks blitz has both
Thats nice
Meanwhile me just shooting the KV-1s Machine Gun port with my Panzer IV Ausführung H in War Thunder
Panzer IV’s were superior to T-34’s and KV-1’s but it was Hitler who wanted bigger tanks
@@RemnantovShorts Yeah I just mean that KV-1s are sometimes really hard to destroy with Pz. IVs in War Thunder (because of balancing), especially when they are angled
Soviet Onion ☠️💀????
yes
Wut?
Im gonna have to see the prototypes papers, please.
uhhhh… I should have added some prototype blueprints…
@@RemnantovShorts *DISCREPANCY DETECTED*
Btw, am I the only one who noticed it said “soviet onion?”
Nice song
Glory to Arstotzka.
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Soviet onion tho, dayum
VK means Voll Kette, which means Fully tracked, half track prototypes were called Hk, Halb Kette.
So many fact are do wrong
I recognize that hoi4 background anywhere
The panzer 4 was indeed very effective in the eastern front, able to fend off T-34s, and mostly the kv-1s
literal soviet propaganda
This isn’t true, the panzer fours were the main killer of t-34s and kv-1s. They just made the panther cause hey needed big useless flashy vehicals for some reason
when you showed the map of the germans invading the soviets you shoed pics of finish panzers not german ones lol
But then the is1 and 2 beat the shit out of it
That’s not true at all the germans had no issue taking out T34s nearly half of all t34s taken out of actin in Russia were to panzer 3s with 50mm guns and half of those were taken out by the 37mm early war sessions of the panzer 3
The panzer 4 was more than capable of dealing with the T34
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GLORY TO ARSTOTZKA.
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A casual T-34/76 and a pz IV F2, G or above were pretty much equals, the only problem was that the germans had mainly 50mm and short 75mm cannons on their medium tanks, after meeting the T-34/76 they realised outmanouvering them takes a lot more effort and time than just shooting them up front, so they just made a longer 75mm cannon and buffed up the pz IV’s armor to 80mm from 50mm
Then German tanks have finished symbol On them
The other prot is in wot
wrong info, even the Tiger I was ordered by the mustache man before the invasion